PROCEEDINGS CORN BELT MEAT PRODUCERS' ASSN. 579 



the silage they will clean up. We do this in order to get the calves eating 

 silage. After about a week or ten days we move these cows into another 

 yard close by so we can let them in to their calves once in a while to ease 

 them. This continues for a couple of weeks, when the calves practically 

 forget their mothers, especially if the calves are given a good feed of silage 

 and oats or oil meal, which is fed twice a day. They have all the clover 

 hay they care to eat. Shelled corn is gradually worked in, but I don't care 

 to get them on a full feed of corn until they are out on grass. From then 

 on it is a matter of constant and watchful attention. They may be mar- 

 keted before, but can be carried on with profit until the International. 



One of the values of baby beef feeding in our system of farming comes 

 from the mothers using a lot of otherwise unmerchantable feed. Of 

 course, these cows get some silage, but not all they will eat. In the sum- 

 mer they are furnished the best pasture we can afford. 



The President : I take it there are some of these points you have 

 brought out here that these men would like to develop a little bit 

 more, or some points that you haven't brought out they would like 

 to develop, so we will just throw this open for a few minutes' dis- 

 cussion. 



Q. I would like to ask Mr. Gunn if he were going to finish up 

 these cattle on a dry lot and not turn them out on grass at all, would 

 he feed them ensilage at the start? 



A. Well, I think you would finally get better results if you would 

 limit the silage. I might go back a little bit further. My aim in 

 feeding cattle is to feed up my clover hay and keep up our land — 

 we must keep up our land, and we must feed cattle for that purpose, 

 but that may not enter into the elements you have under considera- 

 tion. 



Q. We have gotten the opinion that silage is not so much of a 

 concentrate — we work as much silage as possible in the fore part 

 of the feed and then finish off on the other concentrates. 



A. I never fed any cattle in the dry lot in the summer time. I 

 cannot tell you about that. My cattle are always finished up on 

 grass. I never fed any in a dry lot in the summer time. We have 

 a lot of pasture and we try to make use of it. 



Q. Do you raise all of your own calves that you feed, Mr. Gunn? 



A. Mostly, yes ; I sometimes pick up some. 



Q. Just in the neighborhood ? 



A. Yes, just in the neighborhood; but I have never shipped any 

 calves in from the central markets, and I don't know how to handle 

 them, at all. 



Q. What kind do you raise — white-face? 



