TWENTIETH ANNUAL YEAR BOOK— PART III 189 



I would like to hear from some more of you with regard to it be- 

 fore taking up a discussion of the whole matter, because I am not 

 in a position to go into it in detail, because Mr. Rowland was sup- 

 posed to take that up, but I believe it is a subject that will stand a 

 great deal of consideration. 



The Chairman : E. W. Williams is also one of the assistants on 

 this topic. I would like to hear from him until Mr. Rowland comes 

 into the room. 



Mr. Williams : I am like our friend Scholfield, I haven't made 

 any preparation on the thing, but I think Mr. Scholfield's remarks 

 are right in place. I don't think of anything further that I could 

 say until Mr. Rowland is here and gives his version of it, because 

 a man who has put thought on it is better prepared than the man 

 that talks at random. I think it is up to us to solve the question. 

 In giving our opinions we are keeping our own troubles in mind, 

 and since talking with our secretary, Mr. Lauer, sometime ago on 

 that subject, I can think of no better way. There is one avenue I 

 have thought of, and I think we are going to open up a worse sore 

 than we have now, so I won't mention it, but I think there should 

 be some protection to the fair secretary. The state sends out men 

 to tell us what to do or what not to do once a year. Your fair may 

 do something agreeable to themselves, and your people won't stand 

 for it. I think the topic has more to do with dealing with unde- 

 sirables and giving the secretaries some protection. A man comes 

 onto the ground and asks for some space for a certain concession, 

 and we give it to him on faith, and yet in ten minutes he is setting 

 up a different proposition altogether. We as secretaries have given 

 him space for a concession which we in our own mind believed to 

 be within the law. I had that experience this year and I still con- 

 tend that I was within the law. At the same time men will come 

 along and install a game that any sane man knows there is not a 

 chance in fifty to beat, and he'll let that go, while the neighboring 

 fair will not permit it. I am firmly of the believe that we ought to 

 find out what we can do and what we cannot do. I have a place in 

 mind where they made all their expenses this year on things that if I 

 had had them upon my grounds I'd have been run out of town and 

 wouldn't have got state aid. 



At this time, I think Mr. Lauer's suggestion of some kind of cer- 

 tificate that we can go by is essential. It is all wrong that some fairs 

 can get by with things not in accordance with the law while we who 

 are trying to stick to the law are prosecuted. You fair people may 



