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get off the ground," and you will not have very much trouble. Some- 

 times they will probably deceive you anyway, but if they do that 

 you show the public, you show the state, you show the nation, that 

 you will not permit anything of that kind on the grounds, and if you 

 are using all due effort to protect the people from these things you 

 cannot be criticized. 



There are several things in connection with this that I want to say 

 to you, and that is sometimes you get a concession to sell this or that, 

 and they will violate the law a little bit — they will short-change one 

 man and overcharge the next, and you want to put your very best 

 man over there and say : "No more of this overcharging," and you 

 will have no more of that. 



Mr. Young : Just one word in answer to Mr. Cameron here. 

 I think that the answer to the question would be that this is the ac- 

 ceptable time and proper time to try this out, if the thing is good, 

 because Mr. Havner has only twelve months time to do it before 

 someone else comes in, and from all indications from the attorney 

 general's office point that next year would be the good time for the 

 concession fellow to get by. It wouldn't be so hard on the conces- 

 sionaires with reference to the general moral character and reputa- 

 tion, and for that reason I think it would be a good time to try it, 

 and I think the answer to the question is it would be a good time to 

 try it, and I am in favor of trying it for one year anyhow. 



The Secretary : It is entirely optional what attitude you take 

 with regard to this, but there has been a lot of discussion about it. 

 The matter of the attorney general, as I see it, in taking the initiative 

 of placing a ban on these people and making it compulsory on their 

 part to get a permit, is taken from this standpoint: inasmuch as he 

 has those people out on the road anyway, they might just as well go 

 into a fair ground and instead of throwing out this man just because 

 he doesn't comply with this man's individual opinion at that par- 

 ticular place, he can look up this man's permit and see under what 

 basis he was granted the permit, and then he cannot, as they say, 

 snitch on the fair to Mr. Havner. But if this man is running a 

 legitimate game according to his agreement with Mr. -Havner, it 

 eliminates that feature and he can run all over the state of Iowa so 

 long as he runs with that contract. This year I met with several 

 cases where the concessions were permitted to run in one place on 

 one man's opinion, and go over a short distance from there and 

 they were stopped by another man's opinion. It is due to the con- 

 cessioner. They aren't all bad fellows, and they are out after the 



