TWENTIETH ANNUAL YEAR BOOK— PART VII 665 



Mr. Ames : The point I tried to make was that the Great 

 Western was loading six or eight hours later than we were and 

 yet getting on the same market equally as good. 



Mr. Harris: I know just what you have in mind and just 

 what it means to you. It may be that the North-Western has so 

 much traffic on its rails that it cannot do any better, or it may 

 mean that they don't want to do any better. 



Mr. Ames : You said if we had double track all over the state 

 we would get to market faster. It wasn't on account of the war 

 conditions that we had this trouble, because we have had it off 

 and on for the last ten years. We live only thirty miles from a 

 double-track road, and in no instance, where the ti^ain left at six 

 o'clock on Sunday morning, was it necessary to load the evening 

 before and make the stock stay in the car all night, in order to 

 get it on the Chicago market on Monday morning. In no in- 

 stance where we loaded at six o'clock and the car got out of town 

 at eight o'clock, did the car get to the Chicago market later than 

 ten or eleven o'clock on Monday, and that was before federal 

 control of railroads ; so that I don't see where there would be 

 any advantage in double-tracking any of those roads. I think 

 that is just a little thing to cover- up this income guarantee for 

 the other fellow. 



Mr. Anderson : On the Milwaukee road running between 

 Sioux Falls and Sioux City we load our stock in Iowa and then 

 ship to Canton and then down to Sioux City on the Sioux City 

 to Sioux Falls road. On this road we have had great trouble in 

 getting stock cars, and at the farmers' elevator there we have 

 held hogs as long as two weeks before we could get cars, and I 

 have it from a reliable source that at a gravel pit between Canton 

 and Sioux City one man saw a bunch of stock cars, and to make 

 sure he went in and counted twenty stock cars backed in at the 

 gravel pit standing there and they all seemed to be perfectly all 

 right and in good condition, and there they were standing there 

 and we couldn't get cars. I would like to ask if it would have 

 given us any relief to have reported such a condition as that? 



Mr. Harris : We would have investigated and found out what 

 the facts were. If they were as you have stated, the cars would 

 have been moved if they had power to move them. 



The Chairman : I would just like to say right here, in con- 

 nection with this question that Mr. Anderson has brought up, 

 that it is unfortunate that the members of this association do not 



