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in the horse class, which I think onght to be done in our driving 

 classes, in our saddle classes, and in our standard classes, but I 

 don't think we ought to combine our driving classes and then have 

 our standard class by itself. I don't feel that we ought to dis- 

 criminate against the standard bred horse as a class ; that he ought 

 to have just the same show as any other class. 



Mr. Clark: I would like to ask Mr. O'Donnell if he favors giv- 

 ing three or four premiums, or whether he would make the pre- 

 miums larger and only make two? If you had a certain amount 

 of money would you give that amount in three premiums, first, sec- 

 and and third, or would you advise giving it in two? 



Mr : 'Donnell : I would say three. That would be my sugges- 

 tion. Mr. Clark's suggestion brings up another thought to me, and 

 that is that in making these classifications it has been my experience 

 in talking with the men that have been showing that most of the 

 men appreciate the drawing out of premiums further down so that 

 the third man will get something to help him pay his expenses. 

 These men appreciate dividing up the premiums and making 

 more classes. For instance, I just think at this time of a good 

 many fairs where they offer first prizes, second prizes and a ribbon 

 for boars one year old and over. Now Mr. Schug from Strawberry 

 Point, whom I see sitting in the back part of the room there, will 

 realize that we cannot do it with a Chester White yearling boar 

 and I feel that the hog man would be better saisfied if ten dollars 

 were paid, to pay five dollars on the aged boar and five dollars on 

 the yearling. 



Mr. Schug: I think four years ago this Association sent out 

 recommendations such as you suggest and at that time we revised 

 our premium list and we have now got a class for nearly all the 

 breeds of horses and cattle that are any wise prominent in the 

 country ; and do not think of offering sweepstake or championship 

 for dairy or beef stock, nor do we for roadsters or draft horses; 

 nor do I think any fairs of any prominence in the state have 

 continued that. 



Mr. O'Donnell: There are a good many of them. It is a 

 good bit like some of the men going out to judge live stock. 

 When you stay at home and see your own stock only you 

 imagine when you go to the fair that you have the best stock 

 going. So, -when we get out to a county fair and find out what 

 we have to judge and there are a good many breeds in the same 

 class we feel that the managers do not really realize what their 

 premium list looks like until they see some other live fair. 



