FIFTEENTH ANNUAL YEAR BOOK — PART IX. 643 



Doctor Gibson : I liave not, but the field men surely have. 



Mr. Thomjoson: I know they ship a great deal of stuff, and 

 when I was there in July, they had a shipment of cattle, and it 

 was in my mind that they might have done the same as the dog. 



Doctor Gibson : That could easily happen. The government 

 claims to have traced this disease twenty miles on a man's shoes 

 in the snow. It is the belief of all interested (and we are all in- 

 terested in hog cholera serum and all believe in it), that the virus 

 would be more apt to be infected. A careful serum maker could 

 be fooled and could draw virus from a pig that was in the first 

 stages of foot and mouth disease, though showing no external 

 lesions, and having fever from his cholera that couldn't be added 

 to very materially by the other disease ; and in that way he might 

 draw a combined virus of hog cholera and foot and mouth disease 

 from the same hog, and at the same time think that he was using 

 all necessary precautions. Doctor Stange will admit that, because 

 in the first stages of this disease the fever might run as high as a 

 good case of cholera. 



Mr. Brockway: I wish you would explain just how the author- 

 ity on quarantine is divided between your office and the federal 

 office. 



Doctor Gibson : The first quarantine was of the entire state. 

 The government can onlj^ quarantine by states; its authority be- 

 gins and ends at a state line. They quarantined the state of Iowa 

 as soon as they knew we had foot and mouth disease in the state. 

 There came a time when we were begging for relief, and they were 

 willing, as I said before, to release seventy-eight counties, holding 

 the six counties in which the disease existed, and a border of clean 

 counties around them. That is why the thirteen counties were put 

 in a little tighter fix than they had been before, because the gov- 

 ernment required it in order to release about four-fifths of the 

 state. I thought the people in that other fifth of the state would 

 be willing to say: "Well, that is good; I am sorry we are not a 

 part of that four- fifths ; I am sorry we are the ones that are caught ; 

 but that is a great relief for the people of Iowa." But instead of 

 that, they have just jumped on me and argued uphill and down 

 that they should not have been quarantined. The new senator over 

 here (Mr. White) is laughing; he was one that burned out several 

 wires on me ! Some of the republicans in his county say that the 

 reason I have held his county so tight is because he is a democrat 

 and I am a republican. 



