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big stables they run at little expense, and then the associations 

 are careless about the men in the judge's stand. I go to many 

 places where that thing is a joke, — a real joke. I have been so 

 disgusted that I have walked away from the stand and sat down 

 somewhere and tried to think it over. I would not hold any argu- 

 ment. They are indifferent about it. Those are the things that 

 need attention. Think what those men have got before them in 

 that judge's stand, and starting judges don't cost us very much, 

 and they can find men for their judge's stand, and they wink at 

 so many things, and, to tell the truth, the American Trotting As- 

 sociation upholds this in a way. That is one of the really weak 

 points in the American Trotting Association. It does not help the 

 association or the members really. "What is needed is a fair and 

 a square understanding. And these classes, you know they have a 

 way of not notifying the owners and the drivers whether the classes 

 have filled. They do not compl}^ with that rule at all. The Ameri- 

 can Trotting Association really requires it. But I have tried 

 mj^self, often where I was interested and was entitled to know 

 whether the entrance had filled up at Fonda, and Marshalltown — 

 I do not mean those towns, but I use them for instance — and gone, 

 to the expense of wiring the secretary because I wanted it for 

 information. But they do not pay any attention to this. They 

 could have a lot of notices printed on the typewriter. I have seen 

 many a sick horse and many a horse put out of commission that 

 they have not only trained one season, but sometimes two seasons, 

 and the stalls are unfit. And it comes a rainy time and the stalls 

 are damp and it rains into them, and it means putting the horse 

 out of commission, and it is an expensive proposition. Now, it 

 looks to me as though we are on the right track here. I am here 

 to listen, and that is my business, to listen and hear what the other 

 fellow has to say ; but you are on the right track. Go on and have 

 a fair and square understanding with these men. 



Mr. Culbertson of Jefferson : In connection with what I said 

 a while ago, in regard to my having no use for the American Trot- 

 ting Horse Association, I simply recall an instance that happened 

 last year in which we had some entries at Jefferson. A certain 

 secretary went up to Carroll — they preceded our race — and bought 

 up the horses. He gave them so much money, $140 in one case 

 and $150 in another, I think it was three or four horses to go to 

 his town to put on some races. That is one reason why I have no 

 use for the American Trotting Association. Until it is different 



