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Member: Do you believe in a double standard? 



Prof. Lee : No. We want one standard, and I believe that 

 standard ought to be a fat standard. 



Member: From a manufacturers' standpoint, would a fat stan- 

 dard give us any advantage compared with a moisture standard? 



Prof. Lee : No. The man today who has trouble with the 

 water standard would have the same trouble with a fat standard. 

 When we try to keep up Avith the other fellow we are on the wrong 

 track. 



Member: We Iowa buttermakers have to pass an examination 

 in order to test. Mr. Lee has said that the moisture per cent varies 

 in the taking of samples. Is it fair to have government inspectors 

 take samples of our butter and condemn it without knowing that 

 the sample taken was accurate? It isn't fair. Those fellows who 

 take the samples which are used to prosecute ought to be made to 

 pass an examination the same as we do. 



Member: Would there be any difference in the per cent of 

 moisture if the sample is taken out of the churn and a sample 

 taken several days later? 



Prof. Lee: Yes, there will be a difference of about 1 per cent 

 on an average. 



Mr. Stephenson : We have with us this afternoon a gentleman 

 who needs no introduction to an audience of Iowa buttermakers 

 and dairymen, a man in whom we all have a great deal of confi- 

 dence. Mr. P. II. Kieffer. 



Mr. Kieffer: It certainly affords me a great pleasure to have 

 this honor of appearing before you this afternoon. I am more 

 than pleased to see the number of buttermakers, the number of 

 supply men, the number of transportation men and represntatives 

 from the markets here in this audience staying with you to the 

 finish. It shows the interest in you. I used to think we had a 

 great association when I was secretary, but you have made a re- 

 markable advance since then. 



I have been asked by your secretary to pre?nt the medals to 

 those who won in the butter exhibit. And right here 1! want to 

 congratulate the secretary on having the pro rata money all ready 

 to pay to those who had butter. He advises me that it will be paid 

 before you leave. 



I have a surprise in store for you. or, at least, I. am surprised. 

 This is the first time I have attended a meeting of this kind where 



