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Mr. Wallace: AMU any kind of clay do for that purpose? 



Mr. MboRE: If you have a clay that will make a good vitri- 

 fied brick, you have got a tremendously hard substance; what 

 we are trying to do, Mr. \\^allace, is to teach the use of what 

 we have in our own neighborhood. 



A Member: We have heard gumbo recommended. 



Mr. MoorE : I saw^ an article this week about hard pan ; you 

 have got a great deal of it in this State; that makes the best 

 material in the world, if you burn it and roll it. 



A Member: W^hat is the reason you have for believing that 

 the roads wdiich you speak of, that we can not obtain them un- 

 der our present road law, w^hich is not in full operation yet? 



Mr. MoorE: The last law, I think, is working very Avell. 

 This law is not in full effect yet. Now, give it a fair trial ; do 

 not go to work and cut it down. You only started in 1903; 

 do not displace it until 3'ou give it a fair test. 



A Member : I would like to ask what we are going to make 

 good roads of where our soil won't burn, like in southwestern 

 Iowa ? 



Mr. MoorE : You will find these conditions. I lind in south- 

 western Iowa you never grade your roads; you haven't done it. 

 \11 along down the line you have not a drain tile in the road. 

 How do you expect to get rid of the water. They are as flat 

 as a pancake in most places. 



I want to say to- you gentlemen, a call is being sent out for 

 the next national convention to be held in St. Louis in 1904. 

 It will be held May i6th to 21st. The 19th of May, on Thurs- 

 day, will be Good Roads day. There will be demonstrations 

 had there of the different machinery; we are going to build 

 roads there on the Exposition grounds and show you gentlemen 

 how these roads are built. We are bringing people, not only 

 from the United States, but from all the civilized nations in the 

 world. All the great engineers in the world will be there. Will 

 you go along in your own sweet way and tell the legislator 

 how much \"0u love him and let these things go by default? 

 Remember, it costs lots of time and trouble to bring about a 



