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istration should take into consideration these things in the zone 

 system and apply them in some reasonable way. 



Mr. Philips: I will give you a little of my personal experience. 

 I am glad Mr. Harris is here. I have known him for a quarter of 

 a century, and he is unquestionably the friend of the stock men. 

 I think I can forecast the report he will make. What I want to 

 do is to get before him concrete facts. 



Mr. Harris said they could only unload 300 cars an hour, and 

 if there were 2,000 cars to be unloaded it would take until the 

 afternoon. Let us take him at his word. If that is true, we need 

 more facilities in Chicago, and while you are getting these in- 

 creased facilities, you suggested beginning to unload at 10 o'clock 

 at night, and schedule the trains so as to arrive there the next 

 morning. We will agree to that. We are the long-haul fellows. 

 You take your Wisconsin fellows and the Illinois fellows and 

 those from Indiana, and all those fellows close by; you get those 

 trains coming in at 10 o'clock at night, and schedule us to get in 

 in the morning at 5 to 6 o'clock, and let us unload, and then give 

 us the thru train my friend Ames spoke about. As to broken legs, 

 the trouble is they are trying to handle too many cars in a single 

 train — eighty cars. Now, when you get to Blue Island, what 

 causes that delay? It is making up that train. If it was a con- 

 solidated stock train, there wouldn't be any train to make up. 



Now as to the zone system : Creating a five-day market at 

 Chicago is all right, but as my friend said, you hold us to a certain 

 day to be there, but we won't be there. If you will start a train 

 out here on the Missouri river, or the northwestern half of the 

 state, you want to put it on a time schedule so that it will be in 

 Chicago along about 5 or 6 o'clock in the morning. That would 

 help us out. We are the long-haul fellows ; that is why we have 

 a grievance. 



Now in getting cars to ship to Chicago : Along in December 

 I went to the agent and said I wanted a car to ship hogs on Mon- 

 day. This was on Saturday noon. He said all right. My hogs 

 were to come five miles from the country. I went home, and on 

 Monday morning we hauled the hogs in, and the agent came up 

 and said : "I don't know whether we will be able to get your car 

 or not." We sat around there until 9 o'clock Monday night. He 

 wouldn't let me ship on Tuesday, and so he let me go on Wednes- 

 day. Thursday was a holiday in the yards, and I sold the hogs 



