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man never sees his stock. I think there is something to that, in 

 Illinois, Missouri and Iowa, where you go into the terminal mar- 

 ket points. 



The President : Do you know what situation the live stock 

 claim situation is in? 



Mr. Harris : Mr. Howard, of course, was our claim agent be- 

 fore he went to Washington, and the general instructions are to 

 settle claims on their merits. 



The President: He informed Mr. Thorne that Mr. Mercer 

 would appoint a live stock end of the committee. 



Mr. Thorne : Mr. Howard appointed a committee of six on 

 grain claims, and the Interstate Commerce Commission requested 

 the shippers to appoint a committee of six, -representing the grain 

 shippers as a whole. I was appointed as one member of those 

 six. At one of our conferences, I said to Mr. Howard : "Why can't 

 you give the livestock people some representation, the same 

 as the grain shippers, and have a committee of six, and six of a 

 railroad committee?" He said that would be -the right thing to 

 do. He asked me who I would suggest. I said to leave it to Mr. 

 Mercer, president of the National Live Stock League. He said 

 that just as soon as he was ready for a joint committee to be 

 appointed, he would let us know. In the meantime he had a com- 

 mittee of six railroad men investigating, and as soon as they were 

 thru and ready to report, he would let us know. I was advised 

 that Mr. Mercer had suggested the appointment of a committee 

 consisting of Mr. Sykes, Judge Cowan, Mr. Heineman, Mr. 

 Stryker of Omaha and Mr. Parks. I do not know whether Mr. 

 Howard is going to accept those appointments or not. I think 

 the experience he has had with the rules about grain claims has 

 been discouraging, and he may have abandoned the joint commit- 

 tee; but if he has not, that will be the program and that will be 

 the committee. 



The President: Mr. Harris has given us almost the entire 

 afternoon. He is going to St. Louis from here, and wants some 

 little time to make some notations. I think we have covered the 

 whole matter pretty fully" as Mr. Harris certainly has a compre- 

 hensive knowledge and understanding of our needs here. I am 

 sure I am going to keep in close touch with him, and if there 

 is anything else we can add we will do it. 



