520 IOWA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. 



Kieffer : Isn't it a fact that one of the causes of the change 

 to the hand separator system was because they were paying as high 

 as six or seven cents on a pound of butter for the hauling of milk. 

 Didn't it run up to nearly that at Luena before you made the 

 change ? 



Pufahl : Yes, certainly ; that was one of the causes that forced 

 us to change. 



Kieffer : That being the case, it was the main cause for the 

 change, wasn't it ? 



Pufahl : It would be a good cause I think. 



Mr. Hubbell : Isn't it a fact that the territory has been cut 

 down by the establishment of a new creamery on the territory. 



Pufahl: There were several reasons the patronage fell off. 

 They didn't milk as heavy and the territory was cut down some 

 last summer. 



Mr. Carpenter: Did I understand that you took that new 

 milk in to redeem the cream ? 



Pufahl: No, I took it and mixed it for the reason that I 

 thought it took out the bad odors. 



Carpenter : Now the audience seem to think that you took in 

 that milk in order to redeem that hand separator cream. 



Nietert : I wish to set myself right. That is the reason I am 

 asking these question. I am not informed about hand separators, 

 and I am here to get information, and the best suggestion I have 

 heard about improving the cream was what this gentleman told 

 me about putting in the new milk. That is the reason I put the 

 question the way I did. I believe he is an honest butter maker 

 and I am a creameryman interested in any method that will im- 

 prove the quality of Iowa butter. The grade of Iowa butter has 

 not been kept up as it should have been. I am not here to irritate 

 anybody but to find out about it. 



Pufahl: I still maintain the very point. If I was running 

 a creamery I would still try to run tbe cream through the milk 

 and skim over. 



Mr. Ross : I have forty-seven hand separators on my territory 

 and I have been following that method myself. I have fought the 



