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Harry M. Huhbell, Ph.D., 



11. 275, fr. 

 IV. 



fr. IX. 



n, 27s, 



fr. X. 



fr. XIII, fr. 



XVII. 



II, 278, fr. 



XVIII. 



fr. XIX. 



fr. XX, 



XXI. 



II. 279, fr. 



XXII. 



fr. XXIII. 



II, 279, fr. I. 



thenes and Hyperides be considered practical? In the first place 

 not only was any appearance of order lacking in the speeches 

 which they delivered, but it did not appear even in their writings, 

 and it is plain that they did not avoid empty talk. Quite the 

 opposite ; if any have talked discreetly and powerfully. . . . 



The public speakers say that the political art is nothing but 

 rhetoric. . . . Critolaus says that the art of politics demands 

 only time. 



(Nothing.) 



Anyone with common sense would say that the rhetors wrote 

 the laws, and that now states do not entrust lawmaking to 



philosophers, but to rhetors If any philosopher ever 



made any laws he must have been one of the old philosophers. 

 He certainly had no connection with the Peripatetics. 



(Nothing.) 



Sar^anapallus (cf. II. 188). 



Separate politics and rhetoric (cf. 11, 66, col. X'^) . . . . there 

 is no use for it in politics ; for persuasion is not needed for 

 everything. 



(Nothing.) 



]\Iany rhetors will be found who have performed proper and 

 righteous acts. 



(Nothing.) 



/3 



If he takes from rhetoric experience in what is advantageous 

 to the state, and assigns it to philosophy, let us not be vexed. 

 Yet to turn to something with which they agree .... that 

 the rhetors have need of a knowledge of character, and acquire 

 this from philosophy, which some said was to be acquired from 

 the sophists .... which Demosthenes. ... 



(With TrapwpiKevaL ra? eVt^i'/i-tu? cf. II, 2/1, fr. I.) 



. . . nevertheless as such he is better than the majority of 

 rhetors, by nature . . however one who is called a good artist 

 is not of this nature. 



. . i:»ossessing one part of the science, but lacking the other. 

 "According to these, and those who speak as befits themselves, 

 rhetoric cannot produce men just and prudent." 



( Nothing. ) 



Justice is not peculiar to a state, but belongs to any association. 



But experience, speaking plainly testifies that they do not wear 



