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teach others. Isocrates left technical treatises, and so did manv 

 other sophists, and declare it to be a wonderful art. 



II, 123, But [the rhetoricians! do not know how to make laws, or 



govern according' to their manuals. 



II. 123, fr. Inasmuch as rhetors persuade some people by kisses, let us not 



say that others are artists who do not possess the rhetor's faculty. 

 He demands that every science liave its own subject matter with 

 which it is concerned, and tries to show that rhetoric has no such 

 subject matter.^'' 



II 66, fr. _ _ _ -^g usg j-jig principles of grammar ; and using the same 



line of argument, if we are to heal we shall use the principles of 

 medicine, and so in the case of the other arts. 



II, 125, fr. We take up next the argument that every art attains the end 



" ■ either always or generally, but rhetoric falls into neither of these 



classes, but succeeds rarely, and then by the use of elements 

 common to all men.*" 



II. 126. fr. (Summary of the arguments against the Stoics.) They use a 



poor definition which excludes all the conjectural arts ; they 

 make false accusations against rhetoric, which really accom- 

 plishes much by definite principles ; many other criticisms might 

 be made against them. We now pass to the next group. 

 Ptolemaeus. . . . 



II. 109, fr. How can one teach vocal cultvu'e unless one has a trained voice, 



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or medicme unless one is a physician : 



II. 95, fr. Gladly would I learn why only occupations fit for a free man 



■ ■ ^' can be considered arts. How could rhetoric be called unsuit- 



able, if ... I pass by for the moment the statement that 

 [the rhetors themselves] do not wish to have it considered an 

 art; for Demosthenes and Pericles claimed [to possess] rhetoric, 

 and usage [accepts it as an art]. 



II. 94, fr. No less in error is the next argument which runs as follows; 



in. 



if the theorems of the art ought to be of such a nature, one must 



not do this. However one must not draw the conclusion which 



they direct. (What follows refers to periods.) 



II. 91. fr. Epicurus has stated explicitly in his llepi prjTopiKyj<; that their 



knowledge of sophistic does not give them theoretical knowledge 



[of politics]. 



Cf. Sext. Emp. Adv. Rhet. 48 ff., Quint. II, 21 ; v. Excursus p. 374. 

 Cf. Sext. Emp. Adv. Rhet. 13-15. 



