The RJictorica of PJiilodemus. 343 



for much, you would die.^ How is it wise if an art takes a 

 noble man and renders him worse. 



We should not hate and banish the teacher — for he tausiht II, 177, fr. 



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with a proper object in view — but it is right to kill the one who 

 uses it improperly. Polus in the rest of his defense explains 

 about the art.^ 



(Nothing.) fr. III. 



^ IV, II, 170. 



Isocrates received from the Cyprian twenty talents, and from f^'j^Afj. 



Timotheus the son of Conon he received ten more.'^ IX, II, 172, 



(Nothing.) JI' 179, fr. 



Rhetoric alone makes laws.^ fr! iii. 



Thev (rhetors) have been and are our counsellors in war and I^-^^Yt^^^' 



XII, 11, 173, 

 peace. fr. v. 



A slave on being scourged informed against Anaxagoras, and II, 180, fr. 

 Cylon of Crotona had Pythagoras fined and banished, and xiV^ fi 

 burned his disciples in a body; and Socrates" . . . 174. fr. VII. 



Therefore let us pass over this unless there are more sensible n, 180, fr. I. 

 comparisons to be made between philosophy and rhetoric. It is 

 the height of folly to maintain that rhetoric is the science of 

 choosing between what is advantageous and disadvantageous, 

 and of deciding questions of music and geometry. 



(Nothing.) n, 181, fr. 



He was still more ridiculous in adding comparisons between £j.' jjj_ 

 rhetoric and philosophy. 



Men persuade in a variety of ways ; by beauty, by music ■ ■ • u 182 

 by appeal to the ear. fr. IV, 



Some of the sophists would not allow rhetoric to be called a ^j. y 

 condition productive of success ; and those who say they have 

 political ability. . . . 



(Nothing.) fr. VI. 



' Cf . Plato, Gorgias, 486A, B. 



'Cf. Plato, Gorgias, 456D, 457B, 461B f¥. 



^Cf. Fuhr in Rhein. Mus. LVII (1902) p. 430; Hubbell in Class. Phil. 

 XI (1916) p. 407. 



® Cf. Isocr., Antid. 253 f¥. 



" This is part of a list of unfortunate philosophers compiled by some 

 rhetorician. Cf. Radermacher in Rhein. Mus. LVI (1901) p. 214. 



