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Admiral Karo, Yes, sir. 



Mr. IVIiLLER. I have no further questions. 



Do you have any questions, Mr. Pelly ? 



Mr. Pelly. I have no questions. 



Mr. Miller. IVIr. Curtin ? 



Mr. CiTRTiN. No, sir. 



Mr. IVliLLER. Mr. Chairman, excuse me. You are hidden over there. 

 You should be here where I can see you. 



The Chairman. This is an interesting subject. I came here to 

 hear about something that I know very little about. 



Do I gather from your statement that if there were united in one 

 agency a broad expansion of the subject before this subcommittee 

 that it should be placed in the Coast and Geodetic Survey? 



Admiral Karo. No, sir. I did not mean to leave that impression, 

 Mr. Chairman. I merely meant in this statement to point out that 

 it is a subject with which we have dealt ever since our existence, that 

 we have competence in it and have realized the importance not only to 

 the national economy but to the defense effort, and it is a subject 

 which I think bears very close study and implementation if we are to 

 get the most of it. 



The Chairman. That was the reason I asked you that question. 

 It appears that somewhere along the line there must be a correlation 

 of the various agencies that participate in oceanography. 



Admiral Karo. I feel that the interested agencies will come up 

 with perhaps a coordinating committee to be sure that there is no 

 duplication. 



The Chairman. Who is going to head up the coordinating commit- 

 tee ? Under whose jurisdiction would they be ? 



Admiral Karo. I would say that that would perhaps be up to the 

 Congress to decide who would have the overall responsibility. 



The Chairman. While I had the opportunity I wanted to ask you 

 the question. 



Admiral Karo. That is right. I mean the problem is so big. I cer- 

 tainly do not mean to leave the impression that I wanted to master- 

 mind it at all. 



The Chairman. Who is better qualified then, from the background 

 and history of your agency ? What other agency is better qualified ? 



Admiral Karo. Modesty forbids my answering that. 



Mr. Miller. I was going to say this, Mr. Chairman. 



Is this not correct, Admiral : You pointed out that there were 

 three basic phases ? 



Admiral Karo. That is right. 



Mr. Miller. You are dealing with physical oceanography and 

 that is the one in which you claim proficiency. If we wanted to go 

 into the biological phase of it, I think you would be the first to say 

 that your agency has no interest or competency ? 



Admiral Karo. In other words, I do not advocate anything like 

 that because it would mean that to really have competency in it you 

 would have to build duplicate facilities. 



I think there are enough private and Government facilities avail- 

 able so that we can get on with the job if it is properly coordinated. 



Mr. Miller. There is no question that you can coordinate the physi- 

 cal oceanography along with biological oceanography without coming 

 in conflict with the work of the Fish and Wildlife Service ? 



