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Admiral Karo. That is correct. I must in all fairness mention the 

 Hydrographic Office of the Navy. Our main work has been concen- 

 trated along the U.S. coastal waters and territories and possessions, 

 whereas the Navy, by its responsibility, has taken off where we left 

 and gone into the foreign areas. 



Mr. Miller. So that, in our own governmental setup there is no 

 conflict ? 



Admiral Karo. That is correct. 



Mr. Miller. But we do want to coordinate these and dovetail them 

 so that the data collected by you, the data collected by the Hydro- 

 graphic Office, the data collected by the Fish and Wildlife Service, 

 the data in which the Maritime Administration may be interested, 

 can all be used to supplement one another and to build the complete 

 structure or to help solve this very intricate problem that presents 

 itself hidden by the surface of the sea. 



Admiral Karo. That is correct, sir. 



I might add that our relationship with the Hydrographic Office 

 has been one of very close coordination. 



In fact, a few years back we undertook along the coastal waters 

 of the east coast of the United States a detailed oceanographic inves- 

 tigation program for them which was of a classified nature. We also 

 have one of our ships now which has been operating under contract 

 with the Navy on the west coast of the United States and the South- 

 west Pacific in another classified project so that there has been no 

 duplication between our efforts and those of the Hydrographic Office. 

 We get together and decide which is the best method of approach. 



Mr. Miller. You are in the process of getting a new ship now, are 

 you not ? 



Admiral Karo. We have one being built in San Diego ; yes, sir. 



Mr. Miller. I know you have read this report of this committee. 



Admiral Karo. Yes. 



Mr. Miller. Do you subscribe to the thesis that we need more 

 people skilled in the sciences, grouping them all ? 



Admiral I^ro. I would say that that is right along with our gen- 

 eral emphasis on all things scientific in our education, and in our en- 

 deavors today that the technology has advanced to the point where 

 we must have more and better skilled people. 



The number required would depend upon the amount of implemen- 

 tation if any that Congress, after its complete study, determines 

 should be made, but I think we all know that when we try to recruit 

 people in these certain fields, oceanography, mathematics, geodesy, 

 that there are just not enough to go around. 



We are continually being called upon to furnish people that we have 

 trained, part of our own organization, for specific jobs in other 

 Government services on loan or they hire them away from us. 



Mr. Miller. I know that this is a question that perhaps you can 

 answer because of your close association in this field at the time of 

 the war. In the event of an emergency, would there not be a demand 

 for these people that we could not (ill riglit now ? 



Admiral Karo. Well, I think before we get into an emergency we 

 ought to have a lot of this material at hand and digested because that 

 is one of the tilings that we hope will come out of this oceanographic 

 study, particularly in the research angle. One is how are we going 

 to look through the water and see the enemy as it approaches ? 



