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sively attempted to put onr case and I think if tlie records of the 

 Department of the Interior were examined, it would show that our 

 Bureau has been getting a fair allotment of funds, too. That is, we 

 have not been cut short and our efforts and our justification with re- 

 spect to i-esearch has allowed us what appear to me to be a fair share 

 and perhaps even in some instances a little more than some of the 

 other bureaus of the Department. That is, I do not feel that we have 

 been treated unfairly, 



Mr. Oliver. I am happy to have you give me that reply. I felt, 

 ill looking over some of this information that I have, that there 

 has not been too aggressive an effort made by the Bureau to get its 

 proper share of funds. 



Mr. McKernan". I have been accused a great many times of the 

 opposite. 



Mr. Oliver. That is very good. I hope that that means that up 

 in New England, particularly off the Maine coast, we are going 

 to get more work done on herring production and also that we are 

 going to be able to get out and study further the impact of that deep 

 sea dragging for lobsters which bothers us very much. 



Mr. McKernax. Sometime I would like to tell you about our her- 

 ring research up there. It is very interesting. 



Mr. Oliver. To close, as far as I am concerned, Mr. Chairman, for 

 the moment, I sent a telegram on my own, I might say, to the Director 

 of the Woods Hole Institute, and I would like to read the last sen- 

 tence of his reply and then insert it in the record at this point. 



Mr. Miller. Without objection that may be done, 



(The telegram referred to follows :) 



Woods Hole, Mass., March 6, 1939. 

 Representative James C. Oliver, 

 Washington, D.C. 



This institution has not used researcli vessel Alhatross III since the summer 

 of 1952 hence deactivation will not affect our operation, our understanding is 

 that scientific personnel are not affected by this action, however, laying up of 

 research vessels such as the Albatross makes it mandatory that positive action 

 be taken to create a research fleet as proposed by the National Academy of 

 Sciences report on oceanography. 



Paui. M. P^'ye. Director. 



Mr. Oli\'er. I asked him two or three questions, whether or not 

 the deactivation of the Alhatross is going to interfere with the 

 scientific research at Woods Hole, and he replied that it would not 

 affect "our operation." 



I suppose that means the Woods Hole Institution itself not the 

 Federal effort, is that correct? 



Mr. McKernan. Yes. 



Mr. Oliver. It — 



will not affect our operation. Our understanding is that scientific personnel are 

 not affected by this action. However, laying up of research vessels such as the 

 Albatross makes it mandatory that positive action be taken to create a research 

 fleet as proposed by the National Academy of Sciences report on oceanography. 



Signed "Paul M. Fye, Director." 



I assume you would go along with that statement? At least, that 

 is the implication I have of what you said here today, 



Mr. McKernan. That is correct. 



Mr. Oliver. Iii other words, the more that we can all do together 

 to get more funds for this particular purpose making our oceano- 



