144 OCEANOGRAPHY IN THE UNITED STATES 



If you have not read it, of course, you cannot comment. 



I think, Mr. Chairman, that it might be well, if it meets with your 

 approval, to insert that statement in the record at this point. 



Mr. Miller. Do you have a copy ? 



Mr. Oliver. I clipped it out of the paper Sunday, I do not have it 

 with me. 



Admiral Hayward. I am sure the first time we discover an oilwell 

 halfway between New York and Bermuda, we will have a lot of in- 

 terest in oceanography. 



Mr. Oliver. I was tremendously interested in this pamphlet that 

 you have sent up here outlining the specifications and data with re- 

 gard to these proposed oceanographic research vessels. That pro- 

 gram is to be continued on, you say, over a 10-year period ? 



Admiral Hayward. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Oliver. And the first ship will be available in 1960 ? 



Admiral Hayward. It is in the 1960 program. 



Mr. Oliver. It will not be available until 1961 or 1962 ? 



Admiral Hayward. It will be available in 1961. 



Mr. Oliver. These, of course, are going to be the most modern ships 

 available for that particular purpose, is that correct ? 



Admiral Hayw^ard. That is correct. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Oliver. I notice that in the meantime you have stated that 

 converted vessels are going to be the only source of research work 

 that you have. 



Admiral Hayward. That is right. 



Mr. Oliver. That interested me because of a hearing which we held 

 here within the past several days with regard to the deactivation of a 

 ship in the northeastern area of the country operating out of Woods 

 Hole, the Albatross III. Are you familiar with that vessel at all? 



Admiral Hayward. I am familiar with it. The Albatross III^ 

 yes, is the Fish and Wildlife Service ship, a rebuilt trawler built 

 in 1926 and is 340 tons, 179 feet long. It has a range of 4,500 miles 

 and the daily operating cost is about $650. I do not know the back- 

 ground of the matter. 



Mr. Oliver. What I was particularly interested in. Admiral, is in 

 the light of your statements here that the Navy is using converted 

 ships for research w-ork in some oceanography, I am a little bit con- 

 cerned over the statements which we have had that this particular 

 conversion has practically lost its efficiency so far as oceanographic 

 research is concerned. I find it difficult to reconcile those points of 

 view. 



Admiral Hayw^\rd. Well, I have a very good publication here of 

 Gordon Lill, who is the Director of our Geophysics in the Office of 

 Naval Research, and the title of it is "Oceanographic Research 

 Ships." It is of interest to note that the shii)s of the U.S. Fish and 

 Wildlife Service listed here were all originally constructed for a pur- 

 pose other than research. The Albatross III, the Black Douglas, and 

 the H. M. Smithy one is a rebuilt trawler, one is a schooner, and one is 

 a tuna clipper. All of them are 600 tons or smaller. This is a rather 

 small ship. 



Mr. Oliver. Apparently it is the only one that' is being operated 

 so far as Fish and Wildlife is concerned that is capable of ocean- 

 going research. 



