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Mr. CuRTiN. I have no other questions. 



Mr. MiiJLER. Mr. Lennon. 



Mr. Lennon. Admiral, I would assume that the Navy, the Coast 

 Guard, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the Coast and Geo- 

 detic Survey would be the four principal Government agencies that 

 would be interested in this prolonged study of oceanography, would 

 they not ? 



Admiral Hayward. Yes, sir. I think those would be the main 

 ones, the Fish and Wildlife Service, the U.S. Coast and Geodetic, 

 the Navy. 



Mr. Lennon. Do you know- to what extent the Coast Guard since 

 World War II has been interested in the program ? 



Admiral Hayward. Well, I know under their ice patrols, their ice 

 reports and everything are all fed in to us. The infonnation we get 

 from Woods Hole and Scripps, and what the Hydrographic puts out 

 is definitely available to them, but they have their own responsibilities 

 for an oceanographic program, to my knowledge. 



Mr. Lennon. I got that impression, too. Although I knew that 

 they had a need for such a study, I was a little bit surprised to hear 

 the Commandant of the Coast Guard say just 3 days ago that, so 

 far as he personally knew, he did not know that there was such a 

 committee as the National Academy of Sciences Committee on Ocea- 

 nography or that a study had been made. 



I was just wondering how closely coordinated the Coordinating 

 Committee of the Government agencies were, in which the Coast 

 Guard had a representative, if they did not know that such a study 

 had been made until the report was published. 



Admiral Hayward. Well, of course, you know there are two types 

 of people in Washington. There are the Chiefs and the Indians and 

 his Indian was in the departmental meeting and, if he did not tell 

 the Chief, that is the reason that he did not get the word. They 

 were at the meeting. 



Mr. Lennon. Of course, they likely did know and participated 

 in these conferences. He just did not have that information perhaps 

 when he made that statement. 



Admiral Hayavard. No, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. You work closely, I assume, with any agency of the 

 Federal Government that is interested in this program ? 



Admiral Hayward. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. Whatever phase of it they may be interested in ? 



Admiral Hayward. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. That is all, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Chairman, do you have any questions? 



The Chairman. I have no questions. 



Mr. Miller. Counsel ? 



Mr. Drewry. Admiral Hayward, on page 1 you make the statement 

 that: 



Today all active ships of the fleet and some MSTS ships colle<'t soundings 

 and bathythermograph information during transits and forward this informa- 

 tion to the Hydrographic OfBce. 



Admiral Hayward. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Drewry. I take it that these soundings and bathythermograph 

 information are types of information that can readily be secured 

 by the ship proceeding on whatever is its regular mission 'i 



