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arrange to get an airplane to take them up so they can actually talk 

 to Dr. Fye and see one of these oceanographic setups and get a briefing 

 from the working people. 



Mr. Miller. That is a veiy nice invitation, Admiral, and we will 

 take advantage of it at some time. I want to make sure that we get 

 a time when Mr. Bonner and Mr. Tollefson can go with us. I know 

 that they would be interested along with us. 



I would like to be able to extend it to some of the other members of 

 the full committee, too, because they are all interested and it would be 

 a fine chance for them to get acquainted with you. 



Admiral Hayward. I will have Captain Holden get together with 

 the staff. 



Mr. Miller. Fine. Thank you very much. 



Dr. Brown, we are very happy to have you here this morning. 

 Would you come forward and take the witness stand, please. 



STATEMENT OF DR. HARRISON BROWN, CHAIRMAN, SPECIAL SUB- 

 COMMITTEE ON OCEANOGRAPHY, NATIONAL ACADEMY OF 

 SCIENCES (PROFESSOR OF GEOCHEMISTRY AT THE CALIFORNIA 

 INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY) 



Mr. Miller. I do not know whether you gentleman have all had the 

 pleasure of meeting Dr. Harrison Brown, who is chairman of the 

 committee which prepared the Oceanographic Report which has had 

 such an impact upon the people of this country and contributed to the 

 formation of this subcommittee. 



Doctor, MTB would like to have you talk to us informally and then 

 perhaps we will have some questions. We are very much interested in 

 implementing the report which we realize is not completed as yet 

 since you are still working on it, but we would like to have your 

 thoughts on how we can best implement what your committee has 

 brought forth. 



As I said at the beginning, you suggest the expenditure of certain 

 amounts of money. Somebody has to say who will spend the money. 

 I realize that that is not your business but we have to look to you for 

 guidance in this field and we want your advice. 



Will you proceed in your own way, please. Doctor ? 



Incidentally, Dr. Brown has to get a plane at 1 o'clock, so that we 

 will try to get him out of here quickly. 



Dr. Brown. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I am very 

 grateful for the opportunity of appearing before you. I believe that 

 a little background concerning the origins of this committee would be 

 in order together with a very brief discussion of how we went about 

 the process of arriving at these recommendations. 



The committee, as Admiral Hayward has already told you, was 

 formed at the specific request of several Government agencies. The 

 National Academy of Sciences, as you know, is a quasi-governmental 

 body which was chartered originally under Abraham Lincoln and it 

 has the specific responsibility of giving advice to the Government and 

 to its agencies when asked. I was then asked by Dr. Bronk to chair 

 this committee. I should stress at the outset that I am not an 

 oceanographer by profession. That is one of the reasons I was asked. 



In forming the committee, we purposely formed it, arranged its 



