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Mr. Miller. That is what the Russians would do. 



Dr. Brown. That is exactly what they are doing. 



Mr. Miller. That is what they are doing. If they want men in a 

 certain area whether or not a man feels the spark to get into that 

 field he must do so. He may want to become a physician but he has 

 the background and they are going to make an oceanographer out of 

 him. 



Dr. Brown. There are other methods available, however. For ex- 

 ample, the Bureau of Commercial Fisheries and Office of Naval Re- 

 search, in giving contracts to individual oceanographic institutions 

 for basic research in certain areas, can provide funds for research 

 assistantships at the predoctoral level and the postdoctoral level which 

 can then be given to students and this will permit the student to live 

 and at the same time conduct his research. 



Mr. Miller. I am conscious that in certain large industries in this 

 country in the airplane field, for instance, and I know you are fa- 

 miliar with that, some of these big companies have set aside money 

 for scholarships for men, some working in their plants, some of them 

 students who can qualify, and they are sending them on to college 

 in that particular field. I think you are familiar with some of those. 



Dr. Brown. At the California Institute of Technology, where I 

 work, we have many such fellowships which are given out by private 

 companies and so forth. 



Mr. Miller. Should not the fisheries people in this country and 

 perhaps the people who operate the merchant marine, the marine in- 

 dustry itself, be encouraged to start some sort of program? 



Dr. Brown. I certainly believe that they should, yes. I do not 

 know just what form the encouragement will take but something like 

 that certainly ought to be done. 



There is one other avenue also. Since the appearance of our re- 

 port three large foundations have become interested in this area and 

 there are discussions now underway aimed at the provision by founda- 

 tions of scholarships and fellowships in this particular area. 



A foundation does have the flexibility where it can do this kind 

 of thing. 



Mr. Miller. I had in mind that it takes so long to train these 

 people, it takes so long to get the Government operating some of the 

 facilities if we could start picking them now it would be the desirable 

 thing so that we would have trained men when the facilities are 

 ready. 



Dr. Brown. Yes, sir. Getting back to the governmental aspects, I 

 believe that, quite legitimately, an agency like the Bureau of Com- 

 mercial Fisheries, an agency like the Maritime Administration could, 

 as a legitimate part of research, which it contracts to private organi- 

 zations like Scripps or Woods Hole, inchide money in their budgets 

 for research assistantships and postdoctoral fellowships and things 

 of that sort. 



Mr. Miller. That is a very interesting suggestion. I know that 

 you have to get away. I know tliat the subcommittee would like to 

 question yon because of your leadei-ship in this field. 



Mr. Chairman, do you liave questions? 



The (^iiAiRMAN. I liave no questions. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Pelly ? 



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