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Hoboken and the boat was brought up to very seaworthy condition. 

 That is the way she is now. She is an old boat, but she is seaworthy. 

 However, I would like to repeat, if we are going to compete with 

 other countries, we are going to have to have a new boat. 



Chairman Miller. I agree with you, and we are glad to have the 

 testimony of a man of your experience. Do you have any more ques- 

 tions ? 



Mr. Drewry. I have no questions. 



Chairman Miller. I want to thank you for your constructive sug- 

 gestions, but we are a little pressed for time. We have to fly over to 

 Woods Hole very shortly, but, if you will prepare that memo you 

 spoke about, we will be glad to have it. 



Mr. Powp:rs. I will do that. 



Mr. Donahue. The next witness I would like to present is some- 

 body who perhaps can give you some idea of the utility of the vessel 

 from the Fish and Wildlife Service viewpoint. This will be Mr. 

 Robert R. Marak. 



TESTIMONY OF ROBERT R. MARAK, BIOLOGIST, FISH AND 

 WILDLIFE SERVICE, FALMOUTH, MASS. 



Mr. Marak. My name is Robert R. Marak, and I live in Fal- 

 mouth, Mass. I am a biologist for the Fish and Wildlife Service and 

 a union member, a member of the American Federation of Govern- 

 ment Employees. 



I think it would probably be sounder to tell you why we think 

 research is necessary, but you have heard all that from the National 

 Academy of Sciences. One of the reasons I am here today is because 

 I have spent considerable time on the Albatross in the last 6 years. 

 All of the work that I have done on her is work I have been doing for 

 the last 6 years. It is through the efforts of the research boat that 

 have made it possible for me to do these things. 



Getting back to some of the things these other men mentioned, I 

 recently spent 7 days on the Canadian research boat, which Mr. 

 Powers had mentioned, and which cost $2 million. It is a good boat, 

 a beautiful boat, but the Albatross, and I have spent as much time on 

 her as any biologist at Woods Hole, and I would say the Albatross, 

 as she stands now, can do the work the Cameron can. She can remain 

 at sea longer, and this is important because sometimes when you are 

 out, things come up and you have to stay out longer tlian you had 

 intended. The boat is seaworthy, and, unless she was, I don't think 

 the Woods Hole oceanographic people would have used her on some 

 of the occasions they have. They took her over to England and some 

 of the men here serv^ed in her crew. They took her practically around 

 the world. 



I am not a sailor, and some of the men know more about it than I 

 do, but when you get back from a trip which had 70- or 80-mile 

 winds, you feel more confident about going out the next time. I don't 

 see why a man, if he is going to give his time, should work mider 

 adverse conditions. If we use charter fishing boats, we have to rerig 

 them, and spend money to put the boat in shape for our type of work. 



As to living conditions, charter boats and the Albatross should be 

 compared to coming up here in a 1910 coach as compared to coming up 



