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Mr. NiCKERSON". Yes, sir. 



Chairman Miller. How about this winch we were talking about, 

 has it ever been used ? 



Mr. NiCKERSON. They never asked me about it, and probably at the 

 time I wasn't qualified anyway. 



Chairman Miller. Have you ever used it since you have been on 

 the boat ? 



Mr. NiCKERSON. We made an attempt to use it. I think we set out 

 the gear and had an awful time getting it back again, so we quit 

 using it. 



Chairman Miller. What seems to be the trouble? 



Mr. NiCKERSON. I don't know if it does not have enough power or 

 what, but it won't haul back the gear. We had the Chief Engineer 

 down there tinkering w^th it so we could get back a few fathoms at a 

 time. 



Mr. Keith. I would like to know, and perhaps you are not the 

 person to whom I should direct this, but how often does the manage- 

 ment side of the Oceanographic Institute go out on these trips ? 



Mr. Nickerson. Probably half a dozen times, but when they were 

 doing that work with the buoys there was one man out on every trip 

 that we made with Jack Colton. That would be maybe a month, al- 

 together. Then they are always sending out drift bottles. I believe 

 the Fish and Wildlife Service has a contract with the Oceanographic 

 Institute to work on drift currents. And all of our temperatures, 

 things like that, they get all that. We are actually doing the work 

 for them as well as everybody else. 



Mr. Keith. I mean in the chain of command, how many people 

 you actually work for. Dr. Graham, not scientists, but people who 

 represent the Bureau of Commercial Fisheries, how often do they go 

 out? 



Mr. Nickerson. How many men do we have ? 



Mr. Keith. I am wondering if Dr. Graham and his staff go out 

 so they may adequately understand the problems of the Albatross. 

 How often do they go out ? 



Mr. Nickerson. He does not go out on long trips since I have been 

 there. Sometimes a 2-day trip off Provincetown, and he goes on a 

 demonstration trip, one a year of 1-day duration. 



Mr. Keith. As to other members of his stajff, does Mr. McKeman 

 ever go out on the Albatross f 



Mr. Nickerson. No; I don't know if he was ever aboard the Alba- 

 tross or not. The only ones who go are project leaders at Woods 

 Hole. And maybe once in a while a visitor. 



Mr. Drewry. Aside from this one winch that has caused so much 

 trouble, are the other winches satisfactory ? 



Mr. Nickerson. Yes ; very satisfactory. There is a regular fishing 

 winch on the main deck which works very well. 



Mr. Drewry. Was that added as part of the conversion ? 



Mr. Nickerson. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Drewry. How many winches are there on deck ? 



Mr. Nickerson. There is just one fishing winch on deck which 

 has two reels on it. Then we had two BT winches and we had one 

 winch on the boat deck we used for hauling back the television cable. 



Mr. Drewry. They are all working satisfactorily ? 



