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The other work on the rainbow trout has been generally of the same 

 nature. He started with a natural stock of trout in "Washington and 

 by selective breeding has got them to grow much faster and to produce 

 more eggs. 



Mr. Miller. Doctor, in essence, so far as the problem before us is 

 concerned, there is a great deal to learn, perhaps the greatest con- 

 tribution we can make is to furnish the tools for men to do this job, 

 the scientists, furnish the gear, the money, so that they can get it so 

 we can obtain more positive data, as to what can happen to the ocean 

 when we actually get into the atomic age. Is that correct? 



Dr. Seymour. That is correct, Chairman Miller. I think I might 

 mention in that regard that just recently there has been a group or- 

 ganized called Fish Unlimited. This is an organization comparable 

 to Ducks Unlimited. They are aware of the work Dr. Donaldson has 

 done here and are providing funds for enlargement of his program, 

 enlargement of both the physical facilities and also in providing 

 graduate students to carry on this work. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Pelly.' 



Mr. Pelly. We have an interest in this committee because we have 

 jurisdiction over the Panama Canal, and there has been reference to 

 the use of atomic explosives to create a harbor in Alaska and its pos- 

 sible dangerous effects. 



We think maybe from testimony given to the committee that we may 

 be creating a new waterway between the two oceans somewhere around 

 the Panama Canal at some time in the future. I think we were told 

 that th" cost of the explosive would be less than $1 billion, whereas to 

 use TXT it would cost over $50 billion. We are hoping maybe you 

 can study the effect of that because it is one of the problems that is 

 very definitely before our committee. 



I am not going to take the time to ask more questions other than 

 that I would like to say that that part about the fisheries interested 

 me a great deal. I heard testimony once that if you could increase the 

 number of salmon that go to sea by 1 percent you would double your 

 return, because actually only 1 percent of those little fry that are 

 hatched out and seeded in the streams ever get out, so that we have 

 great interest in seeing that that migration of fish and that great source 

 of food for people is protected. 



I know my colleagues here have greatly enjoyed your testimony 

 here today. I particularly probably have more than the ordinary 

 pride in the fact that you do represent the University of Washington, 

 and I have the responsibility of representing them back here. I am 

 always interested in hearing the number of references made to our 

 graduates, the place tliey have in our Department of Fish and Wild- 

 life. You always hear the University of Washington riglit at the top. 



I want to say that I am greatly interested in your references to the 

 University of Washington. I appreciate very much your very fine 

 testimony. 



Dr. Seymour. I would like to make one final remark. Since you 

 have mentioned the Alaska Harbor project, the Division of Biology 

 and Medicine of the AEC have an environmental program for study 

 of environmental and ecological effects associated with this experi- 

 ment. Dr. Wolf, chief of the environmental sciences branchy wlio is 

 present tliis morning, is in charge of that program. This includes 



