ORAL ARGUMENT OF SIR RICHARD WEBSTER, Q. C. M. P. 179 



George McDonald, p. 77. — One year, — in the month of August, on the "Lily ", — 

 I got seals 200 miles south of the Shumagin Islands. 



John Williams, p. 84. — About the 25th .June the " Brenda " left the vicinity of 

 Kadiak Island for the Copper Island sealing-grounds, at which we arrived on or 

 about the 24th July. Ou the voyage over, when ofl' the Rat Islands, about 90 miles 

 south, I saw numers of seals travelling towards these islands. — When the "Brcnda" 

 was about 40 miles south of Attu Island I saw seals; the weather was too rough to 

 hunt. 



W. 0. Hughes, p. 101. — About the 23rd June last I left Tonki Bay for the Copper 

 Island grounds, at which I arrived on the 10th July. Between the 172nd Pass and 

 the western islands of the Aleutian group, from 30 to 60 miles ofi' south shore, I saw 

 scattering seals. 



G. C. Gerow, p. 11. — I do not know cows go to sea to feed when they have young 

 on the islands, but far to the westward cows in milk are seldom taken; the seals there 

 are young females and males. 



Geokge Webster, p. 120. — In travelling from the American to the Asiatic side of 

 Behring Sea from the middle of June to the middle of July I have seen seals all the 

 way across on tine days. 



W. O. Shaftkr, p. 125. — In crossing from the American to the Asiatic coast in 

 July we saw seals more or less every day. 



Lee J. Thiers, p. 127. — In coming back from the Japan coast this j^ear we left, 

 Skotan about the 24th June, and followed the "great circle" track for Victoria 

 where we arrived about the middle of July, and in the passage across I saw seals 

 every day. 



Warren F. Upson, p. 127. — In crossing over this year to the south of the Aleu- 

 tian group, going to the Commander Islands, during the month of July, I noticed 

 seals more or less in the passage. 



F. J. Crocker, p. 129. — In crossing from the American to the Russian side I have 

 noticed seals more or less every day during the passage; this would be about the' 

 month of August. 



H. J. Lund, p. 131. — On the way home this year (from Asiatic side) during the 

 mouth of July, on the "great circle" track, we saw seals every day — some days as 

 many as twenty. 



Note. — These notes are included under the heads " Intermingling of fur-seals in 

 all parts of the north Pacific," and " Occurrence of fur-seals south of the Aleutian 

 Islands during the summer mouths," (in vol. II B. C. C. App.) where many additional 

 references will be found. Only those in which the month is mentioned are included 

 in the above synopsis, though all referring to the crossing from American to Asiatic 

 side of Behring Sea might properly have been included. 



The Miikab ludians at tlie bottom of this page 8, who as it happens, 

 speak to the seals about Cape Flattery, certainly give very important 

 testimony in this resjiect : 



Many of the Makali Indians whose testimony appears in the United States Case 

 (Appendix II) state that the seals remain in the vicinity of Cape Flattery until July. 

 Among these the following may be mentioned as the most important : 



Landis Callapa, p. 379. — Middle of July. 



James Claplanuo, p. 382. — Middle of July. 



Franck Davis, p. 383.— As late as July. 



Ellabush, p. 385.— Middle of July. 



Alfred Irving, p. 386. — Middle of July. 



James Liguthouse, p. 390.— Middle of July. 



OsLY, p. 391.— Last of June. 



Wilson Parker, p. 392. — June and July. 



Joky Tysum, p. 394.— Middle of July. 



Watkins, p. 395. — Middle of July. 



Charley White. — 10th July. 



Wispoo. — In July nearly all the seals have disappeared. 



Hish Tulla.— Not all gone until in July. 



Thomas Zolnoks. — In July all are gone. 



The above dates should more properly be taken as those at which seal-hunting is 

 discontinued by the deponents. As Charles Hayuks says, "We continue taking 

 theui (at Barclay Sound) until June, but there are seals about all summer. (British 

 Counter Case, Appendix, vol. II, p. 146.) 



Mr. President, would you just conceive for a moment what the impor- 

 tance of this is? The case that the [Jnited States make, in jnstitica- 

 tion of their claim for a regulation giving them more than the property 



