24 ORAL ARGUMENT OF SIR CHARLES RUSSELL, Q C. M. P. 



distance from the salt-houses tliat their sldus cannot well be carried to tlieru by hand, 

 and are, therefore, left npon the bodies. 



And tlie aiicicTit Kussiau clironielor, to wloni my friends Mr. Carter 

 and Mr. Coudert more than once referred witli ai)])roval, — a cleric or 

 bishop, 1 am not snre whicli, — Veuiamiuof, writing with reference to 

 1842, thus shewing that this is not a new idea, says: 



Nearly all the old men think and assert that the seals which are spared every year 

 {. e. those which have not been killed for several years are truly of little use for 

 hreediug, lying about as if they were outcasts or disenfranchised. 



And Captain Scammon, also of the United States service, says: 



The loud moanings of the animals when the work of slaughtering is going on beg- 

 gars description; in fact, they manifest vividly to any observing eye a tenderness of 

 feeling not to be mistaken. Even the simple hearted Aleutians say that " the seal 

 Bheds tears". 



Those, you will see, are early strictures upon this method of driving. 

 I now proceed to-shewthat they are methods which are continued, and 

 that they are marked by as ^reat cruelty and aggravation as formerly. 



Mr. Phelps. — As to one of these extracts, it is right to say we claim 

 that is a false translation. 



Sir Charles Russell. — Whicli? 



Mr. Phelps. — The translation to wliicli you alluded, of the Russian 

 author. 



Sir Charles Russell. — Which is the one? 



Mr. Phelps. — Veniaminof. 



Sir Richard Webster. — We will get tlie original; we have never 

 lieard that before. 



Mr. Phklps. — It is in the Counter-Case. We have exposed it in the 

 Counter-Case. 



Sir Charles Russell. — I do not recollect that. At present what 

 I am concerned with is this: that this extract, I wish the Tribunal to 

 understand, from Veniaminof is taken, and taken correctly, from the 

 Census Report, which is ah official document furnished to the United 

 States. I understand my friend Mr. Phelps to intimate that in the way 

 it appeared in that ofticial document, it is erroneously translated. 



Mr. Phelps. — It is copied from Elliott's translation into the Report. 

 The translation was made by Elliott. 



Sir Charles Russell. — 1 was stating it correctly, I think. There- 

 fore what I understand is this : When w^e rely upon an Official document 

 of the United States, my friend retorts upon us and says: " Bnt the 

 official of the United States has mis-translated some document w^hich is 

 referred to in that Report." Be it so. If it is so ascertained to be, let 

 it be made apparent. 



But now I go on to the next page, 264, and there we have his 

 749 later exi)erience. He says in 1890 — this is to be found in his 

 Report furnished to us by the United States: 



I can see now, in the light of the record of the work of sixteen consecutive years 

 of sealing, very clearly one or two points which were wholly invisible to my sight 

 in 1872-74. I can now see what that efi'ect of driving overland is upon the physical 

 well-being of a normal fur-seal, and, upon that sight, feel warranted in taking the 

 following ground. 



Would you be good enough to allow my learned friend. Sir Richard 

 Webster, to read this page for me in order to give me a moment's 

 pause? 



The President. — Certainly. 



