TWENTY-FOURTH DAY, MAY 17™, 1893. 



Sir Charles Eus?ell. — Mr. President and Gentlemen, yesterday 1 

 stated tliat the Baron de Tuyll incident as recorded in Mr. Quiucy 

 Adams' diary, under tlie date of December 24, was, as we conceived, 

 inaccurately stated as liaving taken i)lace in December. We tliought 

 we bad discovered extrinsic reasons showing that it was at an earlier 

 date; but I find, on further examination with my learned friends, that 

 I was not well founded in that, and that the date is correctly recorded 

 in the diary as being in December, 1824. I want to explain in a sentence 

 how that whole matter arose. 



The President. — Have you ascertained if it was before the ratifi- 

 cation ? 



Sir Charles Russell. — Yes. 



The President. — What is the date of the ratification? 



Sir Charles Russell. — It was subsequent. The actual ratifica- 

 tion was, I think, in January, 1825. I have not got it accurately in my 

 mind at the moment; but my learned friend suggests that date to me. 



Sir Richard Webster. — It will be found at page 277 of Volume I 

 of Ap])endix to the United States Case. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — The Treaty in English and French is found 

 at page 7G of your volume. 



Sir Charles Russell. — Yes. 



The President. — It is dated the 11th of January, 1825. 



Sir Charles Russell. — Now I was about to exjdain, as I can do in 

 a sentence, without troubling the Members of the Tribunal to refer to 

 any document, the origin of the representaticm of Baron de Tuyll and 

 also the attempt at limitation which is mentioned in the contre-jyrojet, 

 and which is referred to in the correspondence of August, 1824. Tliis 

 is the explanation. I have told the Tribunal that this Commercial 

 Company was a very important and influential Company. It was the 

 Com])any which, as the diplomatic correspondence has shewn, had been 

 largely instrumental in obtaining the Ukase of 1821. Persons in high 

 positions and of commanding influence apparently were concerned in 

 it, and after the Treaty with the United States had been agreed to and 

 signed, but before the exchange of ratifications, there had 

 Tuyll incident! ^ bccu a mectiiig wliich was called a Council of Dignitaries; 

 and that was held in July, 1824. That Conference of Dig- 

 nitaries was undoubtedly held at the instance <»f this same Coni- 

 912 pany ; and, in view of the construction which that Company was 

 putting upon the Treaty concluded with the United States, and 

 as the outcome of that Conference of Dignitaries, two things took xjlace 

 at a later date. 



The conference was in July. In August 1824 we have in the com- 

 munications with Mr. Canning the attem])ted limitations in the contre- 

 pro;jett\\?iX I referred to yesterday, and later we have the representations 

 in December of the same year of Baron de Tuyll at Washington. Now 

 as regards that Council of Dignitaries, my learned friend, Mr. Carter, 

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