ORAL ARGUMENT OF SIR CHARLES RUSSELL, Q. C. M. P. 269 



1042 Sir Charles Kussell. — I have already said that in my judg- 

 ment international law, as regards property and thiugs, has 

 nothing to do with the questions in this case. 



Lord Hannen. — That is to say, iuternational law does not speak on 

 the subject ? 



Sir Charles Russell. — It does not speak on the subject. 



Senator Morgan. — The Treaty does not refer to the subject as either 

 municipal or international, or to any particular law, municipal or inter- 

 national. 



Sir Charles Russell. — Quite true, sir. It speaks, however, of 

 rights which are to be ascertained by reference to law, as legal rights. 

 I have dealt with the question of municipal law. I have attempted to 

 show that there is no such right according to municipal law. I have 

 also attempted to show — I hope you will think I have succeeded in 

 showing — that there is no such right according to international law; but 

 I have not exhausted that subject. 



Senator Morgan. — I have not yet heard any reference by anybody 

 to writings in which we are to liud either the general principles or the 

 concrete rules by which we are to be guided in the determination of 

 what is the international law, or how much of it ajjplies to this case. 



Sir Charles Russell. — You will have the opportunity. Sir, before 

 this case is over, of being, referred to them. 



Senator Morgan. — I hope so. 



Lord Hannen. — Will you allow me to put a question to you? 



Sir Charles Russell. — If you please, my Lord. 



Lord Hannen. — You have argued that the municipal law of the 

 United States has not made this property in the United States. Sup- 

 pose there had been a law of the United States enacting that the seals 

 on the Pribilof Islands should be the property of the State, would that 

 have made any difference in the argument? 



Sir Charles Russell. — None at all, outside the territorial limits. 

 Of course, as regards their own nationals, it would. 



Senator Morgan. — Outside the territorial limits? 



Sir Charles Russell. — Certainly. 



The Tribunal then adjourned until Thursday, May 25, 1893, at 11.30 

 o'clock A. M. 



