490 ORAL ARGUMENT OF SIR RICHARD WEBSTER, Q. C. M. P. 



Mr. TUPPER. — I may say, Mr. President, that that document seemed 

 to me to be of importance; and, during the prej^aration of the Oase, I 

 made enquiries at the Foreign Office in London. A search was made 

 there, and, if my memory serves me right, and my memory is confirmed 

 for the moment by Mr. Maxwell of the British Staff here, an enquiry 

 was also made at St. Petersburgh for the same document; but our 

 eflorts were unsuccessful. 



Sir EiCHARD Webster. — We have conducted this case hitherto on 

 perfectly friendly terms; and I hope the Tribunal will understand that 

 the Interruption by General Foster, which is quite lair enough, that he 

 would like to see this document was the first intimation, as far as we 

 know, of his having a wish on the matter. We should, of course, if we 

 had had it, have had the document with our papers. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — Then, on page 41 of the same volume, refer- 

 ring to the settlement of Sitka before the Treaty, Sir Charles Bagot 

 says it, 



is not laid down very precisely in the map published in 1802 in the Quartermaster- 

 General's Department here, or laid down at all in that of Arrowsmith, which has been 

 furnished to me from the Foreign Office. 



I find, among the max^s, a copy of this map of 1802, and 1 wanted to 

 enquire if a copy of the map of Arrowsmith is in the case anywhere? 

 I see from your list, there was one of Arrowsmith. 



Sir EiCHARD Webster. — I referred to it yesterda3^ 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — It was published in 1822 with additions to 

 1823. That is the map numbered 98; and I wanted to know if a copy 

 of it was in the case. It is referred to on page 100 of the British 

 Counter Case, Volume 1, map N° 98. 



Sir Richard Webster. — If you would look at page 9G, you will 

 find Arrowsmith's Chart of the Pacific Ocean, originally published in 

 1798 with corrections to 1810. That I know we have; I should think 

 it was the same map. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — That was jmblished in 1810. 



Sir Richard Webster. — Originally published in 1798. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — But I suppose, from the language of Sir 

 Charles Bagot, the map he refers to is the one of 1822 with additions 

 to 1823. 



Sir Richard Webster. — Where does Sir Charles Bagot refer to it, 

 Sir? On page 41, he refers to the one of 1802. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — That is the Quartermaster General's map 

 that you furnished. 



It is not laid down there (that is, the map published in 1802) in the Quartermaster- 

 General's Department here, or laid down at all in that of Arrowsmith, which has 

 been furnished to me from the Foreign Office. 



I suppose that is the British Foreign Office? 



Sir Richard Webster. — I should think so. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — And the map in your list nearest to that date 

 is one of 1822 with additions to 1823. It is N" 98. 



Sir Richard Webster. — I should have doubted if that was it. It 

 was a map of America. I should have thought it was more likely to be 

 the map of the Pacific Ocean. 



Mr. Justice Harlan. — There are a large number of maps, — there is 

 one of Arrowsmith in 1802; one in 1804, and one in 1809, and one in 

 1811, — reading from your list. 



Sir Richard Webster. — You see this map was sent by the Foreign 

 Office to Sir Charles Bagot at St. Petersburgh. We have not been 



