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Hatton remarked that agricultural use iu the pinon-juniper type 

 is small compared to the total area and that these lauds might just as 

 well be included for the purpose of supplying range for early spring 

 and late fall, at which period the forest ranges can not be used and 

 it is too early to put the cattle on alfalfa. 



Barker suggested that the use of this type for winter game range 

 might be a reason for their addition, since we are advocating gaiue 

 conservation. 



Peck stated that the returns from this type of land would not 

 be commensurate with the cost of administration and that the petty 

 annoyances due to timber and grazing trespasses would be much 

 greater than on the Forests as now constituted. Fie also thought that 

 the utilization of the timber on this land would practically approach 

 mining, for after cutting in this type it seldom replaces itself and it 

 has been noticed that settlers are forced to go farther back each year 

 for material. 



Philips stated that reproduction has come in in certain localities 

 following cutting by settlers and that some of the earliest settlements 

 in the State have been made within or close to this type, and that in 

 such regions the timber has not disappeared. He also stated that he 

 believed there were small areas in this type that will fit in with the 

 administration of certain National Forests and they might readily be 

 included by reason of better growth of pinon and juniper timber and 

 the possibility for its utilization. 



Ramskill stated that in the Uncompahgre country, the full upper 

 third of the pinon-juniper type will support yellow pine, as is evi- 

 denced by the isolated yellow pine trees occurring within the type and 

 the number tliat have been cut in the past. He also stated that planting 

 at the Transfer Ranger Station, which is at the edge of the pinon 

 type, w^as successful, and he thought that this land ought to be put to 

 use in raising timber in view of the nearing exhaustion of the timber 

 supply in the United States. 



Bates remarked that through planting certain types can be ex- 

 tended beyond their natural limits but that this is expensive and the 

 results are unsatisfactory. 



Pearce remarked that the same effort exerted in more valuable 

 timberland would be better spent than in trying to develop the pinon- 

 juniper type. If we make what good timber producing land we have 

 productive, we will be able to raise all the timber required for our needs. 



