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Mr. Sasscer: Mr. Harned, do you certify greenhouse stock? 



Mr. Harned: In Mississippi at the present time we are inspecting 

 the greenhouses. If we find anything of a serious nature, we quarantine 

 that greenhouse until it is cleaned up. If we find any of the common 

 insects very abundant, we require them to clean up before they can con- 

 tinue selling plants. But we are not certifying any of them at the 

 present time. We have that matter under consideration and we are 

 doubtful as to the best way of handling it. 



Mr. Wallace: Is the date of your inspection put on the shipping 

 tag? 



Mr Harned: We are not issuing shipping tags to the greenhouses. 

 We are inspecting them and letting them do business locally. If they 

 are shipping things out by mail, they have to have a permit to do so, 

 and that is also true with express. But we are letting them sell locally 

 without permits. 



Mr. Wallace: We inspect our greenhouses if a man wants to ship,' 

 but I will be perfectly frank in saying that the inspection tag, when it 

 says that it is free from insect pest or plant disease, doesn't mean a 

 thing. It means that we were reasonably sure that there was nothing 

 injurious at the time we inspected. 



But as Mr. Dietz made plain, a man might bring in something from 

 another greenhouse the very next day and reship it under his tag. It 

 is not only in Indiana but I think that thing is happening in all of the 

 states. We don't want to start anything in Indiana and penalize our 

 greenhouse men; and if it is not feasible with all the states we don't 

 want to start it. I can't stop our men from shipping. They send up to 

 Chicago and get the plants there. Or, as happens now, we can sell to a 

 broker in Chicago and he resells to another broker, who ships it out 

 and the man who buys it doesn't know where it comes from. 



Mr. p. a. Glenn: We are puzzled in Illinois to know what to do 

 with our greenhouses. Our law eliminates greenhouses from inspection 

 and they are not required to be certified, but in some of the states 

 they require certificates in order that our greenhouse men may ship 

 stock into those states. One 'particular state has asked me to issue to 

 certain greenhouses a certificate covering a year. I hardly see how a 

 certificate could be issued on a greenhouse covering a year. They really 

 ought to be inspected every two or three weeks, or every shipment that 

 goes out ought to be inspected. Every shipment ought to have an 

 effective inspection. But it has been our practice in Illinois, when 

 greenhouses wanted to ship to another state where they require inspec- 



