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and the vacation in the winter. Professor Kellogg wrote that he 

 could not be present, but at that time said he could send some remarks, 

 but I have not received them. Dr. Forbes wrote that he might be 

 here. 



President Sanderson: I am very much interested in this dis- 

 cussion, but it struck me that the papers were all dealing in the prep- 

 aration of the entomologist. Now, I think most of us have to deal 

 with the preparation of the farmer and the fruit grower generally, 

 and there are only a few of us who have the privilege of training up 

 entomologists. I take it that the teaching of entomology is just as 

 important for the masses, as it is to train up the few who are going 

 to be the workers, and I wish we might have discussion on that phase 

 of the subject. For instance, how are we going to teach these men, 

 like Professor Osborn has mentioned, these two-year men, the kind 

 of men we find in the School of Agriculture? We are getting an 

 increasing number of this class of men. What sort of work is given 

 in entomology? How do you get them, for instance, familiar with 

 the plum curculio, and the various other forms of injurious insects? 

 Do you merely tell them about them, and show them a lantern slide? 

 Do you discuss a family of insects, and have a case of specimens, 

 which you put on your table and invite your students to look at? 

 Now these are some of the things that have occurred to me. How 

 do you do field work in the winter — j'our school classes begin the 

 first of October, and you get out the first of June? Should entomology 

 be required in all agricultural courses? Many would say "yes," 

 many "no," and yet how many say they took the course, not because 

 they did not know much about it, but because it was a snap, for they 

 got the same pedagogical value from it as from some other course? 

 Then, another thing, is the systematic work; is it of any real value 

 to a man, and is it taught in such a way that it will be of value to him? 

 If any of you want any suggestions along this line, if you ever get a 

 chance, talk to Professor Lochhead of Canada. His idea of entomol- 

 ogy is of teaching it just hind side to; of starting by giving the stu- 

 dents the economic phases, and then taking them out into the orchard 

 and saying, '' Is this insect beneficial or injurious ; how are you going to 

 tell?" It then occurs to them that systematic entomology has some 

 application. I have tried to interest a class of students who have 

 no idea of going into entomology. How can one give those men a 

 training that will be of any practical value to them? I believe if 

 we went so far as to make elective economic entomology, it might not 

 be a mistake. 



Mr. J. B. Smith: We have a short course at our institution, and 

 it is really a short course, only lasts thirteen weeks, and I give a series 



