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there was for development there. (Applause.) He was glad to 
say that Lady O’Hagan had voluntarily asked the Corporation of 
Burnley—although as a matter of fact they were not the local 
authority over a great part of the land—to indicate the lines upon 
which they would wish that estate to be laid out, so as to 
secure the maximum of health and enjoyment for the persons 
who might ultimately reside upon it. (Hear, hear.) That 
was an example that one would wish to see followed. Reference 
had been made to what had been done in Burnley during 
the last thirty years. A great work had been done, but he 
was afraid very much more remained to be done. He was 
convinced of one thing—that many of them were ignorant of the 
conditions which prevailed even in a town like Burnley. Only 
five days ago he listened for a couple of hours to the revelations 
of their health visitors, and he wished very much that the people 
of Burnley could hear some of the stories which these ladies had 
to tell of what they found existing at their very doors. It only 
made one feel what a terrible leeway was to be made up, though 
they knew that so much had been done for the benefit of the 
people. (Applause.) He was almost hopeless of any good being 
effected till the people generally began to think. The first step 
to be taken in towns like Burnley, was to get the burgesses first 
to acquaint themselves with the actual facts, and then to think 
how they were to remedy the evils. It was a melancholy fact, 
that if they cleared out the slum areas, they simply turned out a 
number of undesirable people into a respectable neighbourhood, 
which, in its turn, was made into a slum. How that was to be 
remedied he did not profess to say. 
Mr. George Gill seconded, and mentioned Buxton as another 
instance of one man (the Duke of Devonshire) controlling the 
town. 
The Lecturer replied at length, and laid emphasis on the fact 
that environment affected habits, and habits affected character, 
and he recommended the German Corporation system of the 
acquisition and the control of land all round the city borders. 
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