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was a great man, who was not to be sneered down. He (the 
President) did not exactly coincide with him, but he did respect him 
as the great philosopher of the age. Never did he blink a fact, 
and he stated his opinions modestly. He thought, however, that 
Mr. Darwin was so impressed with great truths, as he believed 
them, that he sometimes drew deductions which he (Mr. Lee) 
with his insufficient knowledge, thought he was hardly warranted 
in drawing, and he stated things sometimes which militated against 
the deductions.which he drew. But the heterodoxy of to-day in 
many cases proved the orthodoxy of to-morrow, and that which was 
now not sufficiently comprehended would hereafter be recognised 
and appreciated at its true value., He denied that Darwin’s theories 
nmilitated against the great truths of religion. Nothing had made 
itself, and he (Mr. Lee) believed there was one great Maker, and 
whether things were made by special creations, or natural laws 
made from the beginning, sufficient for all time, there was still one 
Great Architect and Designer who was an all-sufficient Creator. He 
did not think that anything Mr. Darwin had said militated -against 
that belief, as he did not say that there was no Creator. 
Mr. R. A. James was sorry for the sake of himself and some 
others not sufficiently acquainted with Mr. Darwin’s theory, that the 
lecturer had not mentioned it to a greater extent. It was some 
years since he himself read Mr. Darwin's book, and he traced the 
subject from the small microscopical organisms in water up to the 
time of the amphibious animals. From thence he followed the 
author very clearly indeed, but he could not help laughing when he 
got to the part where the animals lost their tails. There he could 
not follow him. When he got to the passages referring to the 
gorilla, it appeared that that creature was not far removed from 
man, because Mr. Darwin conclusively proved that the cranial 
capacity of the savages in New Zealand and of the North American 
Indians was only just above the cranial capacity of the gorilla. 
They all knew that intellectual development came to those savages 
by a process of civilization, till they were gradually able to hold 
their own with the white man; and as the years went on he did not 
hesitate to say that they would become quite on a level with the 
ordinary white man. If they had heard a little more on these 
points he should have been very much delighted. 
The Rev. R. R. SurFrrevp said he was very reluctant to make 
any remarks upon the subject, as he felt how inferior his knowledge 
was to that of the President; but whilst he entirely concurred in 
the general line of argument pursued by Darwin, his own opinion 
very much coincided with that which Mr. Lee had expressed. 
He thought there was a great deal in Mr. Darwin's theory; but that 
he had not produced sufficient grounds for carrying it out to the 
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