48 Urlcstoke and its Manor Lords. 



and Herbert Fitz-Herbert as to his rights of succession to certain 

 lauds is evident from the statement of a chronicler when referring 

 to a transaction which occurred between the two in 1177. It was 

 at this time that Henry 11. had formed the intention of increasing 

 his dominions in Ireland and of handing them over to his favourite 

 son, John, for whom he wished to provide a position of dignity 

 and emolument. With this object he divided Munster into two 

 parts and granted the southern half to Kobert Fitz-Stephen and 

 Miles Cogan and the northern half to " Herbert Fitz-Herbert, and 

 William the brother of Earl Reginald, and Joslan de la Pomerai, 

 their nephew," for the service of sixty knights, excepting the city 

 of Limerick and one hundred, whicli the King retained for himself 

 and liis heirs.^ A few weeks later Herbert and William, the 

 brothers of Reginald, Earl of Cornwall, and Joslan de la Pomerai, 

 their nephew,^ resigned the gift to the King because it was not 

 yet the King's to dispose of, and it was then granted to Philip de 

 Braose under the same conditions.^ Munster was by treaty be- 

 tween Henry II. and Roderick of Connaught distinctly recognised 

 to be outside the English dominions, so that before entering into 

 possession of their grant it was necessary to conquer the country, 

 and if its surrender to the King by Herbert, William, and Joslan 

 was due to the belief that this was more than they were capable 

 of, the final result proved them to be right, for Philip de Braose 

 failed completely, and it was not until fourteen years later that 

 Munster was added to the English dominions.* Benedictus Abbas, 

 however, gives, as the reason for their refusal, that the King per- 

 sisted in withholding from them certain family estates which were 

 theirs by right of inheritance (i., 172), so that the Abergavenny 

 historian is confirmed in his statement, but the reason for the 

 King's action remains unknown. 



As time passed the relations between the two evidently became 



' Roger de Hoveden, Stubbs, i., 134. 

 - For this description of Herbert cf. Lewes Cartulary, fol. 126, and of 

 William, cf. R. B., p. 253, 262, but of their relationship to Joslan there seems 

 to be no collateral evidence. 



3 Ibid., p. 135. 

 * Norgate, John Lackland, pp. 12 — 15, 138. 



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