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thrip. The parentage of it I do not know anything about. I feel sure it would succeed 

 with Mr. Bucke far better than the Sweetwater or the Chasselas. I endorse very much 

 what our American friends say with regard to this Labrusca family. There is no doubt 

 that they will succeed better than others where the thrip prevails. 



Mr. Wellington. — With regard to the amateur, I think he must decide for himself, 

 to a great extent, what grapes he will cultivate. Some will praise one variety, while- 

 others condemn it, as my experience shows. I was pleased to hear the remarks in favour 

 of the Worden. That is a grape that I noticed for the first time this year, particularly. 

 I think myself its quality is better than the Concord. Its productiveness is probably not 

 up to that of the Concord, but good. It ripens early, and then, late in October, in going 

 over our grounds I have found good samples of it, and they have tasted exceptionally 

 good. The Brighton, I think, is another that should be in every amateur collection. If 

 you take into account what a farmer would cultivate, I do not think that, for general 

 culture, the Brighton would suit him — and I do not think it would suit every section — 

 but an amateur would like it. It will not keep, however, and must be eaten when ripe. 

 I have eaten Champions that have been equal to Concords, and I have eaten Champions 

 again that would make a pig squeal. The first Champions I ate came from Charlotte, and. 

 at that time I thought the grape was totally useless. After that I ate some that had 

 been grown a little north of Richmond Hill ; and the flavour was equal to that of the 

 Concord. They ripen a little later there ; and, being hardy, I formed the idea — and I 

 hold it still — that in a great many sections, where other grapes cannot be grown, it is a 

 valuable grape. When you come to talk about a grape, which is for the masses, I agree 

 that you have to get a grape with a native strain in it ; and nurserymen and others are 

 now working on such grapes that I think there is a class coming forward that will be 

 very valuable, especially of the white grapes. Of course, being interested in a white 

 grape, I do not wish to say anything about that kind. I think, in the end, the best grape 

 will come to the surface, and will be recognised, and in the hands of the public. I 

 believe that, besides the grape I am interested in, there are others that will be very valu- 

 able. I believe, also, that in other colours we shall have grapes that will do away with a 

 great many varieties that are now being cultivated. 



Mr. Woodward. — I was in Montreal last summer and I thought I would look up 

 the Champion ; and they told me the fact was that the Champion grape coming into Mon- 

 treal market had crushed the whole black grape market. Everybody there thought every 

 black grape was the Champion. One gentleman at Chateauguay told me that, if they had 

 never put a Champion grape in the Montreal market, it would have been hundreds of 

 dollars in his pocket every year. 



It being one o'clock, the meeting now adjourned till two o'clock. 



After the adjournment, 



A committee to examine the fruit on exhibition was appointed by the President, 

 co)isisting of Messrs. William Saunders, S. D. Willard, and A. McD. Allan. 



CLEMATIS. 



WHICH VARIETIES OF CLEMATIS ARE BEST FOR CULTIVATIOX IN ONTARIO 1 



Mr. Bucke, in introducing the discussion, said : I have not much to say about the 

 Clematis — merely that the Jackmanii appears to be perfectly hardy with us, and I 

 presume others are quite as hardy. I have seen the Clematis in England. The white 

 varieties grow very beautifully over the houses there in the south of the island. I have 

 seen Mr. Wellington's catalogue, and, I have no doubt, he can say something about the 

 Clematis. 



Mr. Wellington. — T suppose my report last year covers the ground about as well as 

 I am in a position to do now, with the exception of some of the newer varieties, and 

 those, as I was appointed chairman on the committee on climbers this year, I have taken 



