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six to ten days earlier in the season than the Concord — and I believe we have — then I 

 fancy it is our duty to cultivate it in preference to the Concord, from the fact that it 

 keeps better when it is ripe. In white grapes I have failed with some varieties that 

 some are ready to make great claims for. One is the Martha. I do not want it at all. 

 It is of very little value. I think Col. McGill was speaking rather highly of the Lady grape. 

 Some people have spoken against it. With me it fruited last year, and I prized it very 

 highly. It looks now as if it was going to be a profitable grape. A good hardy grape is 

 something that we want, and we are at the present time looking forward to getting it. 

 Several of those new white grapes are promising well, but they are yet to be thoroughly 

 tested. I fruited last year on my grounds the Pocklington, and it was a very fine grape, 

 but it shed its fruit greatly when it was ripe. You could shake it all off. I saw after- 

 wards, however, some bunches that were sent me by Mr. Wellington, I think — at all 

 events thsy came from that firm — that had been grown in another place, and they adhered 

 quite firmly to the stem. I am looking forward to that grape as a grape of promise. 

 My mind has been naturally changed with respect to it, I believe that the day is not 

 far distant when the Niagara will be for sale. I do not, however, like the way in which 

 those people are handling the Niagara grape. It looks as if we ought to touch it very 

 cautiously. If the grape is so precious that they wish to continue to place it on trial for 

 a dollar and a half a plant it begins to look suspicious to me. And then they make you 

 take two hundred plants. The more I think about it the less I think of the grape. 

 However, I have been very fa^^ourably impressed with that grape. There are some new 

 Canadian seedlings that we should not lose sight of. There are some that are produced 

 by Mr. Haskins, of Hamilton, that, I think, are promising very finely. There ai-e some 

 again that have been produced by Mr. Mills. I think they are all dark, but there are 

 white ones produced by Mr. Saunders that certainly are very promising, and the day is 

 not very far distant when some of them will make their mark. There are some that 

 have been produced by Mr. Reid, of Port Dalhousie, that are very promising. One of 

 them is a very delicious white grape about the size of the Delaware, which, I believe, is 

 destined to make a mark yet. There is another one, a little larger, that looks to me like 

 something very superior. We find that over the country there are several seedling grapes. 

 I have a couple of white ones of my own that give me great satisfaction ; one of them, 

 25, mildews sometimes, and it will overbear. It grows very strong and tall. It ripens 

 late, but there was more money in it on my premises last year than in any two other 

 grapes that I had. It brought higher prices in market. It produces a greater weight 

 than any other variety we have. No. 60 is very early, but it is a small grape. I do not 

 think it will be a profitable grape for market. It will drop from the bunch if it hangs 

 very long. It matures with me pretty near a month ahead of the Concord. You cannot 

 keep it till the fruit is ripe. There are many new Canadian seedlings, and I would re- 

 commend that no one be afraid to spend a dollar in order to test a new variety of our own 

 production. Mr. Haskins does not try to make money out of his grapes ; yet he has 

 spent days, months and years — we might say — in carefully hybridizing different 

 varieties and carefully fruiting them. He has a black grape at the present time that, I 

 believe, produces better wine than any grape we have yet tested. That is his Abyssin- 

 ian. It is a grape that I fancy would be very profitable for us to cultivate for market 

 purposes. I rather like the flavour of it. There are some of Mr. Arnold's grapes again 

 that have failed in some sections of the country, but in other sections are succeeding. 

 You will find that in one locality a grape is going to succeed, and in another it is going 

 to fail. The Brighton is a very profitable grape with us. The trouble is that I do not 

 think it would stand to travel long distances to market. But for an amateur variety 

 I do not think there is anything to surpass the Brighton. We have to protect almost any 

 variety, therefore almost any of them are sufliciently hardy for cultivation here. I found 

 several varieties frozen to death last winter, but it was an unusual winter in the lack of 

 snow. There is only one variety that I know of, of which we lost aU our vines. 

 Locality has a good deal to do with these things. 



Mr. Mattheson. — Is the Adirondac not grown in this vicinity ? 



Mr. President Dempsey. — I grow it. 



Mr. Mattheson. — What is the objection to it as a market grape 1 



