of the highest flavors. Ido not object to it on account of its size, for if I cannot eat 
the whole of one myself I have never any difficulty in finding some person who is quite 
willing to take a share in it. 
The Secretary.—It seems to me that a good way of getting rid of this difficulty 
would be to have a column for productiveness, and in that way we would put the King 
of Tompkins down 3 or 4, and out of 50, which would be the maxim, it would have 
only 40 or 42. 
Severat Mempers.—That is a good suggestion. 
Mr. Witkryson.—I suppose the idea of this list is to guide those who wish to plant 
out an orchard, that they can refer to it and pick out those that have the highest value 
attaehed. 
Mr. A. McD. Attan.—That is not the idea of this list ; there is a separate list for 
that. In this list we have the particulars that judges at exhibitions want. The difli- 
culty in having a column for productiveness is this, that a great many of these apples 
are local, and while an apple might be very productive in one neighborhood under a 
certain set of circumstances, in another and under different conditions it might not be 
productive at all. 
A Memser.—I do not think we need be afraid to let the King of Tompkins stand 
at 40. 
Mr. Rice.—It has no rival ; I do not think there is any danger in letting it stand 
10 all through. 
Mr. Dewpsry.—What is the object of our trying to produce new fruits if we have 
already arrived at perfection. 
The PresipENt.—The question is before you ; shall we reduce the King of Tomp- 
kins County to 6 points as a dessert apple? Lost. 
THE NORTHERN SPY. 
The PresipNev.— The Northern Spy is now before your consideration. 
Mr. Beatt.—The Committee thought it better to put the Northern Spy at four 10s. 
Prof. Saunpers.—I would move that it be not ranked higher than the King of 
Tompkins County. 
The Secretary.—I second that ; it is inclined to spot sometimes in localities, and 
to be imperfect. 
Mr. Witkinson.—I think it is rated too high as a cooking apple ; it is very insipid. 
Mr. Witson (Chatham).—It is not a good enough keeper to rank as high as 10. 
Mr. Atitan.—There are several points you are forgetting. The list is constructed 
upon the understanding that we have perfect specimens ; and for the purpose of aiding 
judges when it is expected that perfect specimens are found on the exhibition table. In 
regard to a perfect Northern Spy, I am willing to stand by the rating given. I know 
that, even for the home market, the Northern Spy, for its own season, still stands at 
the top of the list, and in the foreign market it will do so every time. Of course we 
find many of them spotted, but that does not touch the question at all; we do not want 
these spotted apples, but perfect fruit in every instance. 
The Presipent.—The question is whether we shall reduce it, as has been moved 
and seconded. Lost. 
The Secrerary.—I am inclined to attack it on another point, that is for the foreign 
market. It is placed as high as the King, and certainly the King sells for higher prices 
in the foreign market than the Northern Spy. 
Mr. A. McD. Attan.—There, again, as far as the market is concerned, the stand- 
ard is taken on the apple itself. You will make more out of the Northern Spy than 
the King; its productiveness does it. You will make more out of a perfect crop of 
Northern Spies than out of a perfect crop of Kings, I think you will make more out of 
the Baldwin than the King, but it does not rank with the King. 
Mr. Exxiorr.—If a man who is a grandfather plants the Northern Spy in our part 
of the country his boys may get some of the fruit, but I have had some that have been 
planted thirteen years, and I have never got a crop yet. 
