184 BOAED OF AGRICULTUEE. 



President Stevens: Let us hear from Mr. Burton. 



Joseph A. Burton: I don't know what you want to hear. I am mak- 

 ing money out of my orchard. Mine is an object orchard. I go around and 

 tell people to come and see it. I am more than maliing the money on my 

 orcliard, I am getting enjoyment. There is a difference between our peo- 

 ple and the Illinois people. Over in Illinois every tree is a Ben Davis. 

 We don't have to grow Ben Davis. We can grow better kinds, but our 

 people don't do it. I don't know how to explain. You will have to make 

 them understand the fun and the profit of apple growing. 



Prof. Troop: I have tried for a good many years to make the people 

 believe that Indiana was a good fruit growing State. It seems to me 

 that there are four conditions that are necessary in growing fruit- 

 climate, soil, location, and the proper kind of a man. Perhaps they ought 

 to be reversed. I flunk that the greater portion of this State is good for 

 apple growing, except, perhaps, througli the northwestern part. Our 

 State is not entirely in the fruit growing section, but through the north- 

 east, the east and the southern part of the State I don't believe 

 you can find better fruit growing laud anywhere than we have in 

 those localities, both in regard to soil and location. If there is intelli- 

 gence and work brought to bear there is no reason why we should not 

 gi'ow apples equally with Illinois, Ohio and Iowa, Many varieties we 

 can grow much better than they can with their conditions. It seems to 

 me that success in .apple growing from a commercial standpoint is sure, 

 and the only thing that seems to be lacking is men— men with the proper 

 makeup. Many men plant orchards and expect them to take care of 

 themselves, and then wonder why they don't make money out of them. 

 Wherever I have traveled where a man has planted an orchard and taken 

 care of it, he is making money. This year they have good crops of apples, 

 bringing a good price, and the same result will be found every year to a 

 greater or less extent. 



Mr. Kingsbury: Orchards that have been properly taken cai'e of have 

 been showing a good degree off-prolit to the owner, but that is not the 

 experience this year, and I doubt if it is Prof. Troop's. I would like for 

 him to point to a single orchard that is like anything in full bearing. I 

 visited one of the orchards, kept by one of the best apple growers in the 

 State, a few weeks ago, and the orchard certainly has not anything to 

 complain of in the way of soil or care that an orchard requires, and he 

 has not ten trees in his whole orchard that ai'e anything like being full: 

 only one variety would give him a profitable crop this year. Maiden's 

 Blush is the only apple doing any good this year. 



Mr. Hobl)s: I can tell of one instance coming to my observation re- 

 cently, and that is some Winesap apple trees on Mr. S 's place. I was 



there some weeks ago. Mr. S. pointed out some trees that had borne 



