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very well; it is a very satisfactory apple with one exception, it ripens too 

 early. The Hubbardston is a good apple, with the same fault that 

 Grimes has for growing in the northern part of Indiana — it ripens a little 

 too early. I don't care to say it excels the Grimes— I lilie them both. 

 They are both good producers, but not very hardy trees. 



Mr. Johnson: What apple sells best in your part of the State? 



Mr. Swaim: Any one of them will sell. 



Mr. Burton: Any objections to the Jonathan? 



Mr. Swaim: The Jonathan is like the Winesap up there, it is hard to 

 get them to gi'ow large enough. I am watching with some little anxiety 

 to see how the Mammoth Black Twig is going to do in that section. If 

 that tree will produce well I think it will make a good tree to plant. It 

 is a question whether they will produce enough to be profitable. 



Mr. Burton: Do you think you need a new good apple? 



Mr. Swaim: Yes. We need an apple that has the quality of the 

 Grimes and the Hubbardston and the bearing and keeping qualities of 

 the Ben Davis. We have apples of a good quality and apples that are 

 good bearers, but they are not combined in one variety. 



Mr. Grossman: What do you think of the Smith Cider for our section? 



Mr. Swaim: I have seen it growing, but do not know much about it. 

 I have seen the York Imperial and the Ravenstein, all bearing nicely 

 and apparently doing well. The trees looked healthy. I have not grown 

 them' myself, so can not speak of them from experience. 



Mr. Johnson: Does your view coincide with his that the people are 

 going back on the Ben Davis? 



Mr. Swaim: No. 



Mr. Hoffman: The Grimes was not very good this year. Smith Cider 

 was, but I have never had an apple from which I made so much money 

 as I have out of the Ben Davis. People will "cuss" it, but they will buy 

 it. I have over 3,000 bushels of the Ben Davis on hand now, and I 

 expect to sell every one of them. The White Pippin is one of our best 

 apples. But this year Willow Twig, Smith's Cider and Ben Davis were 

 my principal apples. If I had to make a living from gi-owing Winesaps 

 I should have starved to death long ago. They have never been a success 

 in my part of the State. 



Mr. Burton: Let us not ignore the statement that people are growing 

 tired of the Ben Davis. Last year I sold a man my apples, including the 

 Ben Davis;, this year he came back and I sold him two carloads of apples. 



