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things?" Eat them! There was another college president who 

 wanted to plant catalpa seed. He had a timber claim and wanted 

 to raise trees. He got his seed and planted it and then he came to 

 me and complained that it would not come up. I asked him how 

 deep he planted the seed — you know the catalpa has a very delicate 

 seed. He said he did as I told him to, he planted them like onion 

 seed. I asked him how deep he planted his onion seed, and he said 

 six or eight inches. I told him he could bid good-bye to his catalpa 

 because he would never see them again. I told him he had better 

 quit preaching and study trees. (Laughter.) You tind this ig- 

 norance everywhere, and even college professors pride themselves 

 on what they do not know right here. (Laughter and applause.) 



Mr. A. J. Philips (Wis.) : I think the speaker touched a very 

 vital point when she said that in these movements we must touch 

 the children, we cannot do much with the older people. A learned 

 judge from Colorado went to Chicago with me last year and spoke 

 to the children. He spoke of the politics of Colorado. He said the 

 Democrats were just as corrupt as the Republicans, and they were 

 both as corrupt as they could be, and the only way they could ever 

 get clean politics into Colorado was to reach the children, they could 

 not do anything with the older people. When they were trying 

 those car barn murderers in Chicago, who had committed the most 

 atrocious murders ever heard of, I wrote a half dozen questions and 

 sent them to Judge Kohlsaat and asked him if he would ask those 

 men those questions, and he said he would. One was if they had 

 ever been taught nature study in school, planting of trees or any- 

 thing of that kind. Two of them said they never had, and the other 

 one said he had never heard of such a thing. Another question was 

 whether anybody had ever taught them kindness to animals and 

 human beings. The answer was that nobody had ever taught them 

 any such thing. Another question was whether they ever had any 

 pets or anything of their own. The answer was in the negative. 

 I have forgotten what the other questions were — they were published 

 in one of the Chicago papers — but the others were along the same 

 line. They had grown up in the street with none of those elevating 

 influences around them, and their training or lack of training fitted 

 them to commit the most atrocious murders that have ever shocked 

 the world. When you stop to ponder upon these things I think 3'ou 

 can see the force of the remarks the lady made. I don't want to be 

 outdone by Mr. Harrison or any professor in a story of colossal 

 ignorance. A lady said to her husband, who was an eminent pro- 

 fessor. "While you are attending to your professional duties, why 

 could I not attend to some little thing to keep me occupied, like 

 raising chickens?" "Why, yes," he said, "if you want to raise 

 chickens I will get 3-ou some." He bought some chickens. After 

 awhile one of the hens acted, as she discovered, as though she want- 

 ed to set. Well, she set the old hen with some eggs, the hen knew 

 her business pretty well, and in spite of interference she hatched out 

 some nice chickens. The lady thought they were wonderfully nice, 

 and she took the professor out to show them to him, and he thought 

 thev were fine chickens. In a few davs she said to him, 'There is 



