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Prof. Waldron: What kind of soil were they grown in? 
Mr. Wedge: It is a sort of sandy soil. 
Prof. Waldron: We have red cedar at the station eight years 
old hardly as large as that. They do not do well; they do not do 
well on black loam. 
Mr. Wedge: Are you sure they are from northern seed? 
Prof. Waldron: I think I got the seed from Prof. Budd. I 
made arrangements to get some seed from the Bad Lands. 
Mr. Wedge: Ours seem to do equally well on either a sand or 
clay loam. I have some from the Black Hills that are very nice, 
but the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in the way of red 
cedars are those of Mr. Sherman, at Charles City, Iowa. Do they 
turn brown much, Mr. Sherman? 
Mr. Sherman, (lowa): They have changed a little; they do not 
keep their silvery color. 
Mr. Wedge: I noticed his trees stood the past severe winter 
perfectly; they are a great acquisition, 
Mr. Philips, (Wis.): Is it not a fact that after a few years the 
red cedar is inclined to dwarf and people have come to get the idea 
that it is a slow grower from that? 
Mr. Wedge: I think after the red cedar has attained an age 
of ten or twelve years it grows rather slowly, but the average planter 
wants something that will grow fast at the start. It is a very quick 
grower in the nursery, and will soon make an excellent hedge and 
windbreak if it is cultivated. If it is not cultivated it grows very 
slowly. Speaking of soils, I have two very distinct soils, a yellow 
clay with a reasonable amount of black earth on top, a stiff clay 
subsoil, and a more sandy soil near the lake, but on both soils the 
red cedar grows very nicely. 
Prof. Waldron: In the Bad Lands the earth is so hard you can 
hardly drive a spike into it, and the red cedar thrives very well 
there, but at Fargo it does nothing. 
Mr. Wedge: An occasional inclination to blight is the only ob- 
jection I have to the red cedar. It is something like blight, but it 
does not show much as the tree grows larger. 
Col. Daniels: That is not the same thing as seen in our black 
pines? 
Mr. Wedge: No, it is not that. It will occasionally be seen 
on the side branches. I have seen hedges of red cedar blighted 
around the top and sides. That is a real fault and about the only 
fault it -has. There is one great advantage in the red cedar as a 
windbreak; it makes a very thick, dense windbreak. The lowet 
