172 MINNESOTA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 



Mr. Gardner: In our whole section of country there has been no 

 seed to amount to anything. 



Mr. A. D. Leach: I have quite a large grove of red cedar on my 

 place, and I have had considerable experience in setting it on my 

 farm, and as my experience goes there is no tree that is easier set, 

 transplanted and grown than the red cedar. I set out some twenty 

 years ago a row of Lombardy poplars on the north and west side of 

 my house, which trees are now about eighty feet high, and in the 

 center between each two trees I set a red cedar at the same time. 

 Every one of those red cedars are alive today, and at least twenty - 

 feet high, and they seem to thrive as well as they would if there 

 were no poplars there at all. I have set out a great many cedars 

 about the place and have never had any trouble to make them grow. 

 The red cedar will do better on sand or gravel than it will on clay 

 land; however, it does very well on clay. In a little cemetery near 

 my place I set out box elders and red cedars. One side of it is clear 

 sand, and on the sandy side the box elders were a failure. They 

 have been there some fifteen years or more, and they are no larger 

 around than my ankle, while the red cedars are fully as good on that 

 side as on the other. The other side is a black loam with a black 

 subsoil, and the cedars are just as good there as they are on the 

 first side. Then I have a grove of red cedar on a point running into 

 Lake Minnewashta. It is clear sand, and on that soil the red cedars 

 thrive wonderfully well. If you have a piece of sandy soil on which 

 you can grow nothing else set out some red cedar. 



Mr. EUergodt: I would like to ask if those cedars have limbs 

 close enough to the ground to make a windbreak? 



Mr. Leach: Yes, they do. 



The President: There is one thought I want to bring out. There 

 is a general complaint that white pine will not live, Scotch pine is 

 not living, etc., and what is it that kills them? Is it not drouth, a 

 lack of moisture? Did you have them planted so they would get the 

 benefit of the water that fell, or did you have the earth mounded up,, 

 so all the water would run off? 



Mr. Dartt: There was not water enough to run off. (Laughter). 



Mr, Richardson: I had Scotch pine were the water ran off, and 

 they died. I had Scotch pine where all the water ran on to them,, 

 and they died. 



Mr. Pond: I do not think it can be a lack of water. At Minnehaha 

 creek there is a cut eight feet down where they made a driveway,, 

 near which there is standing a Scotch pine. The roots of the tree is 

 still living, so it cannot be a lack of moisture. 



Mr. Patten, (Iowa): This matter of evergreens has been pretty 

 well discussed, and the question as to the variety of red cedar and 

 as to their northern or southern origin seems to have been thor- 

 oughly gone over, but while Mr .Wedge was speaking I was thinking 

 that perhaps there was a point that had been overlooked by him, 

 and others may have done the same thing. I believe it is true that 

 a large proportion of evergreens along the Mississippi thirty-five to 

 forty miles in the country have been taken from the banks of the 

 Mississippi and from streams running into the Mississippi, whether 



