344 MINNESOTA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 



Pres. Underwood: Is it not true that the arguments you have 

 listened to all tend to show that it makes a difference whether you 

 plant in Illinois, Iowa or the southern part of Minnesota, or whether 

 you plant in this section of the country. It seems to me that is the 

 drift of the arguments I have listened to. 



Mr. Sherman, (Iowa): My experience with red cedar has been that 

 it will stand where it is partially protected. 



Judge Moyer: The red cedar stands from Alaska to the Gulf, and 

 extends from the Atlantic to the Pacific. If you take sets from 

 southern trees they will be tender, but they are hardy if taken from 

 northern trees. 



Mr. G. J. Kellogg, (Wisconsin): I know of hedges that are killed 

 out, as Mr. Sherman says, that came from the south. Avoid red 

 cedar from the south if you want them to live. 



Dr. M. M. Frisselle." There is one objection to the red cedar; it is 

 a very slow grower. In order to enjoy them a man wants to live 

 until he is very old and plant them when he is young. 



Mr. M. Pearce: I think the red cedar is a very valuable tree to 

 plant. There is nothing equal to it for timber. There are localities 

 where it is a great success, and it is not such a slow grower either. 

 There are thousands of red cedar around Lake Minnetonka. Again 

 it is said that the arbor vita; is tender. We have some kinds of 

 arbor vita; that are unsurpassed by any plant. Mr. Gibson, of St. 

 Louis, has a very fine place at Lake Minnetonka, and I have done an 

 immense lot of work for him; I have done work that I thought was 

 going to be an entire failure. I planted those arbor vitce in clusters 

 so as to hide some parts of the grounds that were unsightl3^ and 

 there were banks that were rough, so it gave me a chance to plant a 

 good many trees close together, and those trees, today, are twenty- 

 five feet high. It is the most beautiful ground I have ever worked 

 over. Neither the temperature or drought have killed any of his 

 pine or red cedar. They are growing beautifully, and even if they 

 are slow growers they seem to be an everlasting tree, and there is 

 no timber more valuable than the red cedar. I think, from my ex- 

 perience,where you want to plant trees close together I would recom- 

 mend as a very hardy tree the mountain dwarf pine. That mountain 

 pine is an excellent tree. So far as my knowledge goes it is a rapid 

 grower and very ornamental and a tree that will cover any unsightly 

 ground. 



Mr. Allyn: I want to say a word about the red cedar not being 

 hardy in exposed places. Over forty years ago a man in our town 

 lost his child, and it was nearly the first burial in our cemetery. 

 The cemetery is in a very exposed locality, no tree within half a 

 mile, hardly within a mile of it; and he planted some red cedar 

 around on his lot, and those cedars are the finest trees in the ceme- 

 tery today. They are thirty or more feet high. 



Mr. Bush: I am thoroughly interested in evergreens. The 

 white pine, the native white pine, those that I got by going into the 

 woods and digging the young trees, are standing without aniJ^ pro- 

 tection whatever from trees on either side of them. Those trees 

 remained there and made an excellent growth. 



