348 MINNESOTA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 



Mr. Somerville: I think, Mr. Elliot, the Scotch pine will grow 

 more universally over the northwest than any other kind, except 

 it be the red cedar, and that is of too slow growth. The Scotch 

 pine is the best and hardiest of all the evergreens, within my 

 experience over the state, and I have planted trees in a great 

 portion of the state, that is, in certain locations in the west and 

 northwest, and the Scotch pine has stood and outgrown every- 

 thing else. 



Pres. Underwood: How fast does the red cedar grow? 



Judge Moyer: It grows as fast as the Scotch pine. 



Pres. Underwood: You start that tree at two feet high and it 

 grows a foot a year. 



Mr. Wedge: There is this distinction to be made in the red 

 cedar: If it is not under cultivation it is slow growing, but un- 

 der cultivation it is as fast a grower as any I have on the place. 



Dr. Frisselle: I have a red cedar on my little place; I noticed 

 it when I first came on the place. I think that was eighteen 

 j'^ears ago, and after eight years it was two feet high. 



Mr. Kimball: Did you give it any cultivation? 



Dr. Frisselle: No, it received no cultivation. 



Mr. Kellogg, (Wisconsin): Well, there must be some reason for 

 that. I set some out a few years ago and I think they have grown 

 two feet. 



Dr. Frisselle: I think it is because it is pretty near another 

 tree. 



Mr. Kellogg: Let us have that vote on the red cedar. 



Pres. Underwood: A show of hands is called for on red cedar. 



Hands being counted, it was found that eight were in favor of 

 the red cedar. 



Mr. Wedge: I would just like to get the expression of those 

 who favor the Austrian pine in Minnesota, those who are pleased 

 with the behavior of the Austrian pine. 



A vote was taken, and eight hands were counted as favoring the 

 Austrian pine, 



Mr. Wedge: Now I would like to know how many are opposed 

 to planting the Austrian pine. 



The opposing votes being counted, numbered two. 



Mr. D. C. Converse, (Wisconsin): You have been discussing the 

 planting of evergreens: Now what is the best method of treat- 

 ment after planting, to trim the top back or not? The results 

 with us have been very disastrous in handling evergreens. 



Pres. Underwood: Prune them in severely would be tny answer. 



Mr. Smith: I just came in so I did not hear the first part of 

 the discussion. That is a very important item. I want to indorse 

 what Mr. Somerville says in regard to the Scotch pine. I voted 

 in favor of the Scotch pine. I believe that the white spruce makes 

 the best tree and the most enduring tree, and the best looking 

 tree of anything we can plant, but a farmer can get a windbreak 

 of any given dimension with Scotch pine in half the time he 

 could get it with the white spruce. I think the white spruce is 

 the most beautiful evergreen we can grow. Now, in regard to the 



