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Mr. C. W. Sampson: Do you like the flavor of the Marlbor- 
ough as well as that of the Turner? 
Mr. Spickerman: Well, a good deal depends on the taste of 
the people. I may like the flavor of the Marlborough best and 
you of the Turner. I think the preference for raspberries is a 
good deal like the taste in apples. You may eat a sweet apple 
and like it very well and admire its flavor, but when you order 
apples for general use you order tart apples. We like a mess 
now and then of those sweet and soft berries, but on the whole 
I think the Marlborough is way ahead of the Turner or any 
other berry. Of course, there are exceptions to that rule, but 
I think the Marlborough is way ahead of the Turner as a can- 
ning berry, both in flavor and holding its color. 
The President: Do you think the soil makes any difference? 
Do you think your location makes it possible to grow the 
Marlborough better than it could be grown elsewhere? 
Mr. Spickerman: When I wrote my paper I intended to say 
something of my experience in heavy clay subsoil, and those 
who have had any experience with sandy soil might have some- 
thing different to tell. Iam not prepared to say how either 
variety might do in sandy soil. The Cuthbert needs a heavier 
soil, and you had better put the Cuthbert on high land and the 
Marlborough on low land. 
Mr. H. F. Busse: I would like to ask Mr. Spickerman if he 
notes:any difference in the yield between the Cuthbert and the 
Marlborough? Can you say which is the best paying crop? 
Mr. Spickerman: I think the Marlborough is the best berry 
I have on the place. The Loudon is a new variety and has not 
had the test of a hard winter. _ The trouble with the Cuthbert 
in our section of country is its liability to disease, principally 
cane rust and curly leaf. The Cuthbert is more subject to the 
cane rust than the Marlborough. 
Mr. J. C. Kramer: I have got an idea that the Cuthbert 
beats it all over and over, and you can protect it better through 
the winter. Of course, the Marlborough stands the winter to 
perfection, but these last two years I had a great deal of trouble 
with insects; one patch was nearly ruined. Last spring I cut 
off some canes and took them to Harris and he told me what it 
was. Since then I have found out from Green’s little book the 
whole business—then I found out the insect myself. Otherwise, 
I have an idea that the Marlborough for general use is the best. 
It is hardy and a good market berry, but not as good as the 
Cuthbert. 
