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Minnesota from Minnesota stock, those are the three best ever- 
greens grown in Minnesota. 
Mr. Harris: For my own useI would prefer the northern red cedar 
or the Scotch pine. 
Mr. Bush: I wish to emphasize the statement made by Mr. Smith 
in regard to northern grown evergreens, but I think in recommend- 
ing three evergreens we had better recommend them for certain lo- 
calities in the state. We found in the discussion we had last year 
on the subject of evergreens some that succeeded splendidly in 
southern Minnesota that did not succeed in other portions of the 
state. There are more native white pine windbreaks that are suc- 
cessful than any other, but they are Minnesota seedlings. The 
cedar was recommended, but the cedar is a failure with us, because 
the stock is from southern seed. Wherever planted they area 
total failure, but where we plant the red cedar gathered in the woods 
on the ridges, we find they make satisfactory growth; but the white 
pine and the Scotch pine we regard as our best evergreens for shel- 
ter belts, because they are so easily transplanted. They grow rap- 
idly and turn the snow in a short time, and they have everything to 
recommend them as being the best evergreen for southern 
Minnesota. They may be a failure in other parts of the state, but 
in southern Minnesota they are a decided success. 
Mr. Dartt: What other variety do you refer to? 
Mr. Bush. The Scotch pine. I place the white pine first, because 
with us it belongs in that position. Thatis only for that location. 
In recommending this list last year I recommended it for southern 
Minnesota. 
Mr. C. L. Smith: Isit not true, Mr. Bush, why you have so many 
white pine growing, that the white pine can be gathered the most 
easily, and is it not true thatthatis one reason why your white 
pine hedges are more frequent? 
Mr. Bush: Yes, that is true. The seedlings from which those 
trees came came from those ridges. Where we have taken up those 
little seedlings and transplanted them,I have not found a single 
tree that has died from drouth in the extreme drouth we had. 
Mr. Dartt: I think in our recommendations of trees we should 
recommend them as we get them,as we find them of worth in the mar- 
ket where they are to be planted, and if there are any conditions 
they should be put in with the recommendations. The white pinel 
believe requires a clear atmosphere and, perhaps, a more moist 
atmosphere than some of the others, so much so that it will not do 
wellin a dry atmosphere. At Owatonna itis not nearly equal tothe 
Scotch pine, and I think you will find that in the western part of the 
state the white pine does not stand as wellas the Scotch pine. In 
regard to the red cedar, I believe it is something as it is with trees 
from apple seeds; some of them will be hardy, and some will be 
tender, at least that was the case with trees I bought that were 
grown from northern seed. I got them from Douglas; some of 
them proved hardy, and others, the nicest of them, proved a failure. 
So I think there is a little variation, and I have thought the varia- 
tion extended to other seedlings, that some of them would be hardy 
and some of them tender. 
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