18 MINNESOTA STATE HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY. 



DISCUSSION ON THE FRUIT LIST. 



Mr. Clarence Wedge: We submit to you practically the same 

 list as a year ago, with some few items changed. We have 

 seen fit on account of the extremely good behavior of the Char- 

 lamof, as we have found it throughout the state, also in north- 

 ern Iowa, to put it on the general list for planting. (Reads) 

 "Of the first degree of hardiness for planting in Minnesota: 

 Duchess, Hibernal, Charlamof." 



We make something of an innovation this year by adding some 

 foot-notes to the list. For instance, we have added a foot note 

 to the Duchess — and I suppose the printers will set it up with a 

 letter referring to a letter in the margin at the foot. To the 

 the first list we have added the Charlamof, and the foot-note 

 distinguishes it from Peterson's Charlamof and describes it as 

 of an oval shap<^. 



Mr. J. S Harris: It does not correspond with the descrip- 

 tion; he said it was oval shaped, and the form is roundish- 

 conical instead. 



Mr. Wedge: Our aim was to make the description popular, 

 instead of exact. 



Mr. Harris: The Charlamof is distinctly conical; it is not 

 egg shaped. An egg is oval shaped. 



Mr. L. R. Moyer: I suggest that the Duchess be called the 

 Oldenburg. That is the name for it, and I think in making out 

 this fruit list we ought to use the right names. 



Mr. Harris: The American Pomological Society calls it the 

 Oldenburg, and it is so known in Canada, and we cannot go 

 back of the authority of the American Pomological Society. 



Mr. C. L. Smith: I can see no reason why our society should 

 drop the name. Duchess, and substitute the name, Oldenburg, 

 because the principal use of the report we send out is the guid- 

 ance of the people of Minnesota. When they see the apples 

 in the market they speak of them as the Duchess, and the ap- 

 ple is known all over as the Duchess, and if we want to put it 

 Id parenthesis as the Oldenburg I do not think there would be 

 any objection, but I think we want to put it in our fruit list as 

 the Duchess. 



Mr. J. O. Barrett: Universally, all over the country that ap- 

 ple is known as the Duchess for short, and we ought not to 

 confuse the people When they send to the nurseryman for 

 that variety, they mention it by tliat name, and if we give it a 

 new name it will confuse the yeomanry of the country. 



