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Dr. Frisselle: My experience has been that the Janesville 
grape is an abomination. Noman nor woman buys it more than 
‘once. It looks well, but it is not fit to eat. As the last speaker 
remarked, there are plenty of others that are much better. 
Mr. Harris: I shall still recommend the Janesville. How- 
ever, I think thatthe Early Victor would be a good substitute for 
it as a table grape. I think, in the country where Mr. Cook 
resides, the best system of raising grapes would be to train 
them on short sticks. 
Mr. Ludlow: I will say that with that kind of training I 
don’t think you could get through the field. I have known 
that kind of a grape to grow twenty feet in one summer. I 
have had to pinch mine off from three to five times in order to 
.get through the trellises, because they grow so fast on our 
rich prairie soil. The Clinton with me acts about the same as 
the Janesville. It is asour grape but needs no covering. 
Mr. Cutts: I grow the Janesville and its twin sister the 
Champion, on account of their extreme hardiness, vigorous 
growth and abundant yield. I would say that this matter of 
taste is largely one of fancy. A year ago I received a visit 
from a farmer who has raised a great deal of fruit, but never 
had much to do with grapes. It was somewhat early in the 
season, and while we were going through my grapes I handed 
him a bunch of Champions. He ate them with apparent relish 
and said that they were fine, and stated that if he could raise 
grapes like that he would be perfectly satisfied. I then took 
him down a few rows further and gave him a bunch of Moore’s 
Early. ‘‘Well,” he said, ‘‘I had no idea that there was that 
difference in grapes.” So I came to the conclusion that people 
are satisfied with the Champion and Janesville, . 
Dr. Frisselle: In regard to the ripening of the Clinton I no- 
ticed that the gentleman made a statement that he could not 
ripen his grapes very well until the frosts had destroyed the 
leaves on the vines. That statement might give some- 
body the impression that if he could only get the leaves off from 
his vines in some way or other, it would accelerate the ripening 
of his fruit. This isan error. I knowaman who acted on this 
supposition and stripped off the leaves from his vines. He waited 
and waited for his fruit to ripen, and I guess he is waiting yet. 
(Laughter.) The fact about the Clinton being ripened by the 
frosts is this: the Clinton is a wild grape and the frosts sweet- 
en it. 
